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KC-00632
IRGN2632WS2021v6.0Pending
Postponed for further investigation, IRG 61.
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Here is the full evidence:


承政院日記 3074冊 高宗 33年 8月 20日

Here the emperor gave 李⿰土攸鎔 a stallion (兒馬) in August 20th, 高宗 33年. But 李⿰土攸鎔 does not have any job titles or ranks, unlike other people mentioned here. I think he could be an imperial descendant, otherwise it is hard to imagine the emperor will give horse to a random people.

I could not find more evidences of 李⿰土攸鎔 in 承政院日記, however I do find 9 evidences of 李𪣢鎔(이문용), he has a unfortunately short lifespan (1882-1901).



For example, in August 21st 高宗 34年, exactly one year later, the emperor gave 李𪣢鎔 a stallion again (승정원일기 3087책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 34년 8월 21일).

And in August 20th 高宗 35年, the emperor gave 李𪣢鎔 a stallion (승정원일기 3100책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 35년 8월 20일).

From the examples above, I suspect 李⿰土攸鎔 and 李𪣢鎔 are the same person. Since 汶(
문) and 攸(유) have different pronunciations and 𪣢 seems more stable, ⿰土攸 is likely misinterpreted from 𪣢. Can Korea provide more evidences of ⿰土攸?

U+2A8E2
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-08-06 21:32:09 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
KR disagrees.
Many data provided by HUANG Junliang are extracted from Internet.
They are digitalized data, NOT the original documents.
KR suggests that he provide original documents, NOT the digitalized data, to facilitate discussion.
ROK
2023-10-10 11:09:30 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Here are the original evidences of from the website I mentioned above.


승정원일기 3087책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 34년 8월 21일 [양력9월17일] 무인 7/11 기사 1897년 光武 1년 光緖(淸/德宗) 23년 (⿰王汶, apparently misprint of 𪣢, for the whole page image, please click the link)


승정원일기 3088책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 34년 9월 19일 [양력10월14일] 을사 24/30 기사 1897년 光武 1년 光緖(淸/德宗) 23년 (for the whole page image, please click the link)


승정원일기 3090책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 34년 11월 6일 [양력11월29일] 신묘 12/22 기사 1897년 光武 1년 光緖(淸/德宗) 23년


승정원일기 3091책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 34년 12월 12일 [양력1월4일] 정묘 12/19 기사 1897년 光武 1년 光緖(淸/德宗) 23년


승정원일기 3092책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 35년 1월 18일 [양력2월8일] 임인 4/8 기사 1898년 光武 2년 光緖(淸/德宗) 24년


승정원일기 3092책 (탈초본 139책) 고종 35년 1월 21일 [양력2월11일] 을사 6/12 기사 1898년 光武 2년 光緖(淸/德宗) 24년

In the evidences above, 李𪣢鎔 is often mentioned after his elder brother 李埈鎔. So as 李⿰土攸 (in page 32b) mentioned with 李埈鎔 (in page 32a) in the original evidence.


My question is therefore: Based on current evidences, are 李⿰土攸鎔 and 李𪣢鎔 indeed the same person? If so we should provide more evidences of ⿰土攸 for it to be encoded.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-10-12 15:55:57 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
11:00 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Postponed for further investigation

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
6.0
For 00819, change Status to Postponed
6.0
For 00819, add Discussion Record "Postponed for further investigation, IRG 61."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
KC-00632
1.0

Raw Info
groupROK
a) Source referenceKC-00632
b) PUA Code of TTFEE69
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)R032.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)7
e) First Stroke(Primary)3
g) Total stroke count10
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰土攸
j) Similar/ Variants N
k) Ref. to Evidence doc國史編纂委員會 承政院日記 3074冊 高宗 33年 8月 20日
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No of Previous IRG WSN/A