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64.0 手
SC=11, FS=2 TS=14

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SAT-08577
FS=2, 2023-04.
Not unified to 莏 U+838F, IRG 60.
Glyph updated, 2022-12.
Similar To: Similar: 莏 (U+838F)/ Similar but semantically different: 𣘡 (U+23621)/
U+838FU+838F
U+23621U+23621
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The second evidence shows the following one, please confirm which one is better.

Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-06-28 09:13:04 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
If the current glyph is kept, the IDS should be 〾⿰扌莎
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-06-28 09:14:02 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The Taisho glyph does look like patchy printing. We will update the glyph as per #7007.
WANG Yifan
SAT
2022-09-09 07:13:22 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
U+838F
unify to 莏 (U+838F)

The evidence shows 説文 捼~ 手相摩也. 許慎 also said the variant of 捼 is 挼, and Prof. 费秉勋 modified some definition based on the 《説文解字》, which he was studying “挼曲子” mentioned in 《东京梦华录》. At this time, the submitted character and the relative one are not used in the sentence in 《説文解字》.



▲ 許慎: 《説文解字》, 藤花榭本, 第十二上


▲ 费秉勋: 《宋舞杂考》//中国艺术研究院舞蹈研究所: 《舞蹈艺术丛刊 1986年第4辑(总第17辑)》, 北京: 文化艺术出版社, 1986.11, 统一书号: 8228·151, p. 112

The following book provided the similar word related to the submitted character.


▲ 李玉汶: 《漢英新辭典 第五版》, 上海: 商務印書館, 中華民國十年九月 (1921.9), p. 533

《廣韻》 and 《集韻》 showed more useful information.


▲ 《廣韻》, 符山堂藏板, 下平聲卷第二 (蘇禾切)


▲ 《集韻》, 南宋初明州刻本, 卷之一

Based on current unification rule, they could be unifiable because of cognate.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-02-10 05:58:48 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_FS
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
FS=2
#36, IRGN954AR
HKSAR
Hong Kong
2023-02-14 07:07:47 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Not unifiable with 莏 (U+838F) because of different number of components.
WANG Yifan
SAT
2023-03-10 06:28:43 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-22 (Wed)
11:00 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 莏 U+838F

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 01504, add Discussion Record "Glyph updated, 2022-12."
5.0
For 01504, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 莏 U+838F, IRG 60."
5.0
For 01504, change First Stroke to 2
5.0
For 01504, add Discussion Record "FS=2, 2023-04."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
SAT-08577
1.0
🢂
4.0

Raw Info
groupSAT
a) Source referenceSAT-08577
b) PUA Code of TTFF239
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)064.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)11
e) First Stroke(Primary)1
g) Total Stroke Sount14
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰扌莎
j) Similar/ Variants Similar: 莏/ Similar but semantically different: 𣘡/
k) Ref. to Evidence docSAT-08577-01.jpg;SAT-08577-02.jpg
l) Optional infoN/A
m1)Previous IRG WSN/A
m2)Sequence No of Previous IRG WSN/A