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01490
64.0 手
SC=10, FS=1 TS=13

TD-3B4D
No change, UCV #305 is not applicable, IRG 60.
Similar To: 𠺃 (U+20E83)
U+20E83U+20E83
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-06-20 17:35:59 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 09:51:36 UTC
Data for Unihan
UNIHAN_DATA
WS2021 v4.0
kMandarin chún
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-01-24 19:37:28 UTC
Modified
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
This appears to be a positional variant of 𠺃 (U+20E83), which is also used for a name in Taiwan.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-01-24 19:39:55 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
According to the new rules (same components, different structure), TCA agrees to be a VS of U+20E83.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-03-17 09:28:19 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Oppose unification to 𠺃 (U+20E83).

Based on the provided readings, U+20E83 appears to be taking phonetic 振 while TD-3B4D appears to be using phonetic 唇. If this is the case, they are non-cognate and shouldn't be unified.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2023-03-19 19:38:57 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-22 (Wed)
11:29 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change, ucv 305 does not apply.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.0
For 01490, add Discussion Record "No change, UCV #305 is not applicable, IRG 60."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TD-3B4D
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTD-3B4D
b) PUA Code of TTFE0CB
c) KangXi Radical Code64.0
e) Stroke Count10
f) First Stroke1
g) Total stroke count13
i) IDS⿰扌唇
j) Similar/ VariantsU+20E83
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_03
k1) Page No.Page6, no.1075
l) Optional infochún