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30.0 口
SC=13, FS=2 TS=16

UK-20369
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v1.0
[ Unresolved ]
The glyph doesn't match the evidence.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-26 12:41:23 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
NORMALIZATION
WS2021 v1.0
[ Unresolved ]
Reading 'ha' indicates that the right side component is 夏, so normalize the glyph form to ⿰口嗄.
Andrew WEST
UK
2021-06-01 12:26:23 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
NORMALIZATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
In 2020, a Chinese rapper Nineone (乃万) claimed to be 哈人 in the variety show Youth With You Season 2 (《青春有你 第二季》). She was born in 陕西省西安市. When the Xi’an people wrote 哈, there are at least two meanings: evil or and stupid or blockhead. See https://www.aihip-hop.com/12972.html .

However, when the Northeast people write 哈, that means “what”, such as 干哈, which is similar to 啥.

The submitted evidence is related to Chinese Sichuanese dialect (Chinese Southwestern Mandarin-dialects). There are at least three meanings mentioned in the evidence, the first red square includes two meanings I mentioned above in Xi’an. It is easy to know the right part must be 嗄, because the initial is 生母 in 廣韻. Please also compare 哈 with 啥.

So, the current glyph is right and acceptable.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-01-31 14:08:14 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]

▲ 钟秀芝, 《西蜀方言》, 上海: 上海大学出版社, 2017.01, ISBN 978-7-5671-2386-1, p. 599
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2024-03-22 15:17:34 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-20 (Wed)
10:39 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
7.0
For 00638, add Discussion Record "No change, IRG 62."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20369
1.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20369
b) PUA Code of TTFF015
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)30.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)13
e) First Stroke (Primary)2
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count16
i) IDS⿰口嗄
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k1) References to evidence documentsGrainger, Adam: “Western Mandarin, or the Spoken Language of Western China” (Shanghai: American Presbyterian Mission Press, 1900) p. 599
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20369-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A