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R=68.0 斗, SC=5, FS=1
R2=30.0 口, SC2=6, FS=1
IDS=, TS=9

TC-792F
R(2)=30.0 (口), SC(2)=6, FS(2)=1, IRG 61.
Secondary Radical =30.0, SC(2)=6, FS(2)=1
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-06-20 19:11:27 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 09:45:22 UTC
Data for Unihan
UNIHAN_DATA
WS2021 v4.0
kMandarin dòu
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-01-27 19:02:36 UTC
Modified
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Perhaps change Radical to 30.0 (口), SC=6, FS=1?
WANG Yifan
SAT
2023-07-27 16:25:39 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Perhaps change Radical to 30.0 (口), SC=6, FS=1 and move Radical 68.0 (斗) to the secondary one?
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-09-27 07:07:25 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
The pronunciation of the character seems to be incorrect. The character should be a variant of ⿱古斗, which is a variant of 𢪿(U+22ABF), i.e. 辜. So the pronunciation should be gū.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-07 02:04:36 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Agree to change Radical to 30.0 (口), SC=6, FS=1, and add the second radical as 68.0 (斗).

And the pronunciation dòu was provided by user. It is uncertain whether ⿰古斗 is a variant of ⿱古斗, so we could discuss whether to add the pronunciation gū.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-10-13 03:07:57 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-18 (Mon)
11:23 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
solved.
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
9:25 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
add secondary Radical to 30.0 (口), SC=6, FS=1,

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
6.0
For 01633, change Radical (Secondary) to 30.0 (口)
6.0
For 01633, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 6
6.0
For 01633, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 1
6.0
For 01633, add Discussion Record "R(2)=30.0 (口), SC(2)=6, FS(2)=1, IRG 61."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TC-792F
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTC-792F
b) PUA Code of TTFE0E1
c) KangXi Radical Code68.0
e) Stroke Count5
f) First Stroke1
g) Total stroke count9
i) IDS⿰古斗
j) Similar/ VariantsNo
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_02
k1) Page No.Page12, no.622
l) Optional infodòu