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R=162.0 辵, SC=11, FS=3
R2=82.0 毛, SC2=11, FS=1
IDS=, TS=15

VN-F19B0
R(2)=82.0 (毛), SC(2)=11, FS(2)=1, IRG 61.
Secondary Radical =82.0, SC(2)=11, FS(2)=1
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The glyph is clear, but when you see the structure description, doesn't it apparently suggest that the character should look ⿺毛束 = 𣭴 U+23B74?
WANG Yifan
SAT
2022-07-06 07:46:04 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The analysis does suggest a shape of ⿺毛束. The character means "fast", hence the semantic 速. Other evidence from (Tự điển chữ Nôm trích dẫn, p. 754) shows a unifiable variant composed of 毛速 and the analysis says that the semantic, "Ý" is 速 and the phonetic "Âm" is 毛. I will try to ask the author to clarify this, but the evidence below does show that 毛速 is used.

Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2022-10-20 17:34:19 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Radical 82.0 (毛) is much more intuitive for this ideograph.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2023-06-13 21:23:08 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
PnP section 2.2.1 d. (5) c): "If the technically correct (aka semantic) radical for an ideograph hampers its discoverability, or is region-dependent, the primary radical shall be assigned as though made by an ideograph expert who is neither a specialist in the history of the Han script nor familiar with ideograph etymology. The technically correct radical can be assigned as a second radical."

Therefore use Radical 82.0 (毛) as the primary radical for this character, and add 162.0 (辵) as a second radical if considered necessary.
Andrew WEST
UK
2023-06-14 08:37:23 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
According to Prof Hồng, the compiler of the dictionary, both forms are in use and the analysis is a short way to indicate that 速 can be abbreviated to 束.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-06-24 17:41:54 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
9:42 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
add secondary Radical 82.0 (毛)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
6.0
For 03983, change Radical (Secondary) to 82.0 (毛)
6.0
For 03983, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 11
6.0
For 03983, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 1
6.0
For 03983, add Discussion Record "R(2)=82.0 (毛), SC(2)=11, FS(2)=1, IRG 61."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
VN-F19B0
1.0

Raw Info
groupV
SourceVN-F19B0
CodeF19B0
Rad162
Strk11
FS3
TS15
IDS⿺毛速
Var.N/A
EvidenceVN-F19B0.jpg
Readingmau
NoteN/A
Prev. WSN/A
Prev. WS No.N/A