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167.0 金
SC=15, FS=4 TS=23

GKJ-00507
Remove R(2), IRG 61.
R(2)=149.0 (言), SC(2)=16, FS(2)=3, 2023-05.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Here is the full page of evidence 2:


精刻海若湯先生校訂音釋五侯鯖字海(明刊本)卷3 folio 40a, 言部/15畫

In the full page we can also find ⿰言錦 (in the blue rectangle):「稅說二音,䜛也」. ⿰言錦 might be a variant of ⿰金䛲.

Here are some new evidences:


泰和五音新改並類聚四聲篇(金刊元修本)卷3 folio 8a, 言部/15畫, quotes 搜真玉鏡.


明神宗顯皇帝實錄(紅格鈔本)卷584 folio 7a (萬曆47七月七)


▲ 明神宗實錄校勘記(中央研究院歷史語言研究所)p2722 (Also shows ⿰金諱/𲇠(WS2017-04454))


明熹宗哲皇帝實錄(紅格鈔本)卷72 folio 11b (天啓6六月十一)

From 明實錄 evidences, we can conclude that 𲇠/⿰金諱 is misprint of ⿰金䛲.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-02-23 16:03:41 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Per new evidences, add secondary radical 149.0 (言)
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-02-23 16:06:35 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Why are we adding a second radical 149.0?
Henry CHAN
Individual
2023-06-04 18:28:40 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
I agree with Henry.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2023-06-30 00:55:45 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
I suggested adding a second radical because the character is categorized as 言部 in two dictionaries. Plus it has a variant ⿰言錦. If the secondary radical is not supposed to record such information, I am happy to remove it.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-08-07 14:17:23 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
The purpose of the second radical is to aid discoverability, but it is unlikely that anyone would expect to find this character under 言 radical, so agree that the second radical is not required in this case.
Andrew WEST
UK
2023-09-04 21:45:42 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-18 (Mon)
11:19 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change.
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
9:16 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change.
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
9:18 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
remove R2=149.0 言, SC2=16, FS=3

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.0
For 04186, change Radical (Secondary) to 149.0 (言)
5.0
For 04186, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 16
5.0
For 04186, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 3
5.0
For 04186, add Discussion Record "R(2)=149.0 (言), SC(2)=16, FS(2)=3, 2023-05."
6.0
For 04186, add Discussion Record "Remove R(2), IRG 61."
6.0
For 04186, change Radical (Secondary) to (empty)
6.0
For 04186, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to (empty)
6.0
For 04186, change First Stroke (Secondary) to (empty)
7.0
For 04186, add Discussion Record "No change, IRG 62."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GKJ-00507
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GKJ - Science and Technology Characters)
a) Source referenceGKJ-00507
b) PUA Code of TTFE126
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)167.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)15
e) First Stroke(Primary)4
g) Total Stroke Count23
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰金䛲
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc合併字學篇韻便覽 精刻海若湯先生校訂音釋五侯鯖字海