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04687
32.0 土
SC=5, FS=3 TS=8

GDM-00286
R=32.0 (土), SC=5, FS=3, IRG 61.
Evidence accepted, IRG 60.
R=196.1 (鸟), IRG 58.
R(2)=32.0 (土), SC(2)=5, FS(2)=3, 2021-10.
Similar To: 䲧 (U+4CA7)
U+4CA7U+4CA7
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The radical should be 196.1 not 196.0.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-05-19 15:21:17 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Add the second radical as 32.0 because of the semantics
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-06-06 07:44:09 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
SC=5 with the second radical as 32.0.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-06-06 07:44:44 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_FS
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
FS=3 with the second radical as 32.0.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-06-06 07:44:59 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Change Radical to 196' 鸟
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-11-30 15:08:30 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]

▲ 陕西省临潼县志编纂委员会: 《临潼县志》, 上海: 上海人民出版社, 1991.8, ISBN 7-208-01191-5/K·276, p. 58

《临潼县志》 gives 坞刘村.


▲ National Database for Geographical Names of China

If the information provided by National Database for Geographical Names of China is right, 坞 looks more correct.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-01-29 02:10:43 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
The pronounciation of ⿰土鸟 is niao3, which is resonable. Placenames can change over time.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-03-15 03:39:33 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
It is better to check more evidence to make sure it is not an accidental typo. When we need to say the geographic name could be or has been changed, please show the evidence. Guessing doesn’t make sense for our encoding works.

On the other hand, the traditional one 䲧 is included in Kangxi Dictionary, but the pronunciation is 動五切 which is similar to 杜, that means 塢鵑 is the variant form of 杜鵑. 从鳥土聲, and niǎo is not reasonable for this rationale.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-03-19 02:13:16 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
For unencoded characters, the place names change in different materials. Using characters which have similar shapes or pronounciation to replace( not to represent) is normal. It is funny to indicate I am guessing.
Use ⿱石非 as an example:
Baidu Map 碌:

中国·国家地名信息库 碌:

However, 《连州市志》 have the real shape:

To be stressed, when replacing rare characters with normal characters, 中国·国家地名信息库 often gives wrong pronounciation according to the new character. Because the pronounciation of 中国·国家地名信息库 is automatically producted by machine, if the information registrar is carefree, the pronounciation is wrong in the system. The level of 中国·国家地名信息库 is not better than 《中华字海》, especially when talking about rarely used characters.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-03-22 03:25:46 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]




坞 is very rarely used in place names in Shannxi Province, and go a further step, in Xi'an.

There is actually no 坞 used in placenames in Xi'an.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-03-22 05:15:36 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Sorry, there is one case, i.e. 郿坞, which was originally a big house owned by Zhuo Dong(董卓).He is from Min County, Gansu Province(甘肃省岷县). In Min County, there are some place names which contain 坞. It is really interesting.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-03-22 05:21:51 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
The new explanations on Comments #13127 and #13128 look reasonable, it is OK to keep it as-is temporarily.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-03-22 13:27:55 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Based on the pronunciation, primary radical should be 32.0.

Change Radical to 32.0 (土), SC=5, FS=3.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2023-03-23 06:49:35 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
9:09 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
R=32.0 (土), SC=5
IRG #61
2023-10-17 (Tue)
9:10 am -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
32.0 (土), SC=5, FS=3, the first radical.
IRG #60
2023-03-23 (Thu)
10:45 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Evidence accepted, no change.
IRG #58
2022-03-17 (Thu)
9:02 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
R=196.1 (鸟)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04687, change Radical (Secondary) to 32.0 (土)
2.0
For 04687, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 5
2.0
For 04687, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 3
2.0
For 04687, add Discussion Record "R(2)=32.0 (土), SC(2)=5, FS(2)=3, 2021-10."
3.0
For 04687, add Discussion Record "R=196.1 (鸟), IRG 58."
3.0
For 04687, change Radical to 196.1 (鸟)
5.0
For 04687, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, IRG 60."
6.0
For 04687, change Radical to 32.0 (土)
6.0
For 04687, change Stroke Count to 5
6.0
For 04687, change First Stroke to 3
6.0
For 04687, change Radical (Secondary) to (empty)
6.0
For 04687, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to (empty)
6.0
For 04687, change First Stroke (Secondary) to (empty)
6.0
For 04687, add Discussion Record "R=32.0 (土), SC=5, FS=3, IRG 61."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GDM-00286
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GDM - Place Name Characters)
a) Source referenceGDM-00286
b) PUA Code of TTFE29C
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)196.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)3
e) First Stroke(Primary)1
g) Total Stroke Count8
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰土鸟
j) Similar/ Variants U+4CA7 䲧
k) Ref. to Evidence doc陕西省临潼县地名志