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R=86.0 火, SC=14, FS=4
R2=41.0 寸, SC2=15, FS=4
IDS=𤇾𡬠, TS=18

TE-2D68
R(2)=41.0 (寸), SC(2)=15, FS(2)=4, IRG 59.
Secondary Radical =41.0, SC(2)=15, FS(2)=4
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-07-01 20:43:53 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Change Radical to 41.0 (寸), SC=15

FS should be kept as-is.

See WS2021-02210:T9-7D53
02210
火 86.10.4
T9-7D53
TS 14 · IDS 𤇾
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-07-06 14:10:57 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Agree to change Radical to 41.0.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-09-16 07:05:21 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 10:13:25 UTC
Data for Unihan
UNIHAN_DATA
WS2021 v4.0
kMandarin yíng
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-02-06 20:39:55 UTC
Modified

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #59
2022-10-20 (Thu)
10:52 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
add first R=41.0 (寸), SC=15
IRG #59
2022-10-20 (Thu)
10:55 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
add second Radical to 41.0 (寸), SC=15.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 02250, add Discussion Record "R(2)=41.0 (寸), SC(2)=15, FS(2)=4, IRG 59."
4.0
For 02250, change Radical (Secondary) to 41.0 (寸)
4.0
For 02250, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 15
4.0
For 02250, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 4

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TE-2D68
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTE-2D68
b) PUA Code of TTFE184
c) KangXi Radical Code86.0
e) Stroke Count14
f) First Stroke4
g) Total stroke count18
i) IDS⿱𤇾𡬠
j) Similar/ VariantsNo
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_04
k1) Page No.Page4, no.1618
l) Optional infoyíng