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120.0 糸
SC=11, FS=2 TS=17

TE-2725
SC=11, TS=17, 2023-04.
Evidence accepted, IDS=⿰糹虖, IRG 60.
Glyph updated, 2022-05.
Change glyph to (⿰糹虖), T source update to TE-2725, Add new UCV rule of 虖 and 𧆠 as level 2, IRG 58.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The evidence image, which is simply a code chart excerpt, is insufficient. While the link to the CNS 11643 website is better, it also is insufficient. A dictionary entry or book excerpt that explains its meaning or shows the ideograph in context is desirable.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2021-11-26 17:18:43 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Agree with comment by Ken Lunde.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-01-06 22:07:50 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Suggest to code 14-2725 (⿰糹虖) instead of 9-763C.

It's highly likely that 14-2725 would be unified with 9-763C. There is also 15-5721 which also has the same variant relationship with 2-5E4E. Inevitably TCA will need to register an IVD to support both person's name. TCA should preferably code the character which uses more common components.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2022-03-05 19:25:37 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Taiwan's ID card sample is shown below.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-03-15 07:49:02 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
This is not simply table, this table already provides a lot of information it’s contains:
Second column:the CNS code;
Third column:household registration internal code;
Fifth column:ID No.;the first letter in ID No. indicates regions, such as A=Taipei City, B=Taichung City; and The second letter indicates sexes. The first 7 numbers are a serial number, and the last number is a check digit. (more information see https://goodearth.com.tw/ge_sys/index.php?ctrl=newsletter&id=770));
The last column: a record of the person himself, spouse/ father/ mother/ adoptive father/ adoptive mother. See the below.


TCA would like to highlight the fact that sometimes the personal names only have the shape of the character rather than the pronunciation or meaning. For example, in the Kangxi Dictionary, some characters are only explained by the names of people or place.


Does the TCA suggest that the review of names should be based on glyphs only? Of course, under the UCV rules.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-03-15 08:12:50 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The evidences were produced by the household registration system and stamped by the M.O.I. official seal. TCA think the government document is very heavy evidence.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-03-15 08:41:16 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
TCA agrees that the right component is more commonly used, and Henry's suggestion is correct, TCA submitted the character set considering the frequency of use, and the high one was submitted first. However, if we look at it from the IVS point of view, the basic character should be the one suggested by Henry. If IRG agree, TCA accept to change the submitted glyph to TE-2725.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-03-15 08:41:36 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Given that the glyph has been updated, SC=11, TC=17.
The IDS should be changed from ⿰糹𧆠 to ⿰糹虖.
HKSAR
Hong Kong
2022-07-06 04:14:26 UTC
Editorial
EDITORIAL_ISSUE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
The evidence is missing.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-02-27 16:21:31 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Still no evidence provided. If no further evidence made available move to pending.
John Knightley
Individual
2023-03-06 01:33:06 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Because of the common component, TCA has agreed to change the proposed form, so EVIDENCE is unable to provide the Table produced by the Household System, and TCA can only provide the BMP form used by the MOI in the early days as Evidence.


Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-03-13 09:48:43 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
The whole page evidence as below:
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-03-21 06:01:12 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-21 (Tue)
9:23 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Evidence accepted
IRG #60
2023-03-21 (Tue)
9:27 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
ids to be updated.
IRG #58
2022-03-16 (Wed)
8:35 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
change glyph to (⿰糹虖), add new ucv of 虖 level 2.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
3.0
For 03083, add Discussion Record "Change glyph to (⿰糹虖), T source update to TE-2725, Add new UCV rule of 虖 and 𧆠 as level 2, IRG 58."
3.0
For 03083, change T Source to TE-2725
3.0
For 03083, add Discussion Record "Glyph updated, 2022-05."
5.0
For 03083, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, IDS=⿰糹虖, IRG 60."
5.0
For 03083, change IDS to ⿰糹虖
5.0
For 03083, change Stroke Count to 11
5.0
For 03083, change Total Stroke Count to 17
5.0
For 03083, add Discussion Record "SC=11, TS=17, 2023-04."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TE-2725
3.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceT9-763C
b) PUA Code of TTFE23C
c) KangXi Radical Code120.0
e) Stroke Count10
f) First Stroke2
g) Total stroke count16
i) IDS⿰糹𧆠
j) Similar/ VariantsNo
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_01
k1) Page No.Page9, no.273
l) Optional infoN/A