Note: U+6B25 and SAT-04277 (eq. VN-F208B planned for the next Vietnam WS submission) are different in Nôm Tày usage and should not be unified. In the evidence provided by Eiso above, VN-F208B is read "hăn", meaning "to see". But U+6B25 is read "hất", which means "to work", "put effort into", etc.. Here is the entry for 欥 (U+6B25) from the same source (Hoàng Triều Ân: “Từ Điển Chữ Nôm Tày”, p 202):

𦆢 (U+261A2)
reading, sense and shape are similar. Kangxi entry for U+261A2 quotes Quangyun: 居例切，音罽。○按从网之字，或省作冈，或變作四。This appears to be a variant using a form of 四.

𮒃 (U+2E483): they look identical.

The similar character, 𦰁 (U+26C01), is read "lǐ" and the evidence for this character says "jì". Since shape and reading are different, no unification.

The reading given is different from those for 䐸 (U+4438): guo2, huo4, so no unification.

This is very similar in reading and shape to 蓂 (U+84C2)

Unify to 藔 (U+85D4), based on similarity of components ⿳大日小 and 尞

Vietnam prefers to keep VN-F0547 and handle VN-F1B70 with IVS

Note, comment above assumes that the IRG confirms UCV rule #457. If not, we prefer to keep both.

The glyph and IDS shown are for 宫, which TC=9. SC=10, is this a conscious normalization of the stroke count, or should it be SC=9?

Evidence shows 欠 on the right side of 尚, so ⿸疒廠 is not an accurate IDS

Agree to change of IDS.

Agree with Henry, I thought we were following Kangxi.

IDS would change to ⿰糹别

I'm fine with changing the radical to 女, which seems more natural, but note that 女 is phonetic and 忍 is semantic, so by current IRG rules, it has to be 61 in 忍.

Our original submission was SC=13. Suggest changing back.

Note: 169.1 (门) is phonetic, 欲 is semantic, but I agree that it is much more helpful to assign radicals based on form than meaning.

126.0 (而) would be a natural way to look this up and should be an alternate radical. However, the meaning of this character is "two" and 而 is phonetic, so based on IRG rules, the best radical might be 7.0 (二), SC=9, FS=1

The image is not clear, though the reading "lèi", does suggest the component 厽. Is it possible to get clearer evidence?

Could this be a variant of 鱷 (U+9C77)? It's paired with another dangerous aquatic creature, 蛟. It would be good to see more of the context in the evidence.

This is what Baidu says about 蛟鱷:
蛟鱷是漢語詞彙，讀音為jiāo è，出自《寧德縣重修城隍廟記》，解釋蛟龍與鱷魚。亦泛指兇猛的水中動物。

They quote a passage from 宋·陸游《寧德縣重修城隍廟記》: “濤瀾洶湧，蛟鱷出沒。”

I agree with Andrew's comment.

It's very difficult to make out what this character is. Is it possible to get a larger / clearer image?

It's difficult to make out the shape from the image provided. It would help to get a clearer image.

It looks like part of the evidence for this character's equivalence to 𧯷 (U+27BF7) is based on the quote from the Yi Li: 四爵而合𧯷. But, it's not completely clear that the last character is U+27BF7. Is it possible to get a clearer image?

Vietnamese character with identical shape, meaning a reel, device used in handicrafts, from "Giúp đọc Nôm và Hán Việt", p. 436

It would be good to have additional evidence to support the reading given, "dùn". The phonetic is 貭, which is a variant of 質, so I would expect a different reading, such as "zhì". Otherwise, this would appear to be a variant of U+78B7 碷 "dùn"

Given the shape and reading, it's possible that the bottom component is 稟 (lǐn). Is there better source evidence?

The transcription into simplified with 弯 on the right is helpful, but not conclusive in determining the original shape. It would be good to have clearer evidence for the original.

A similar character, read "nhép" is found in Vietnamese (Takeuchi Yonosuke, "Tự Điển Chữ Nôm, p 391). It's used as onomatopoeia for biting and sucking sounds.

Is there a clearer image or other evidence including meaning or reading?. It's hard to tell if this is 𫞽, 賽 or something else.

The rationale for the change in source is explained in IRGN2429, which was previously discussed at the IRG. I would argue that the right hand side is 興, but here is another source, Takeuchi Yonosuke's "Tự Điển Chữ Nôm".

I will try to find a clearer image, but note that he clearly asserts that this is composed with 興.

UCS has already included all the regional basic standards, G0 & G1 for mainland China, T1 & T2 for TCA, J0 for Japan, K0 for ROK, and KP0 for DPRK. V0-3E41 is included in the Vietnamese standard TCVN 5773-1993 and should be similarly treated. Details are discussed in IRGN2429.

Additional evidence from "Góp phần nghiên cứu văn hoá Việt Nam" shows that this is a Nôm Tày character, meaning "round"

The only additional evidence I have on hand is from the Chinese-Vietnamese dictionary "Nhật Dụng Thường Đàm", p 50b. where the character appears in the name of a bird "mòng két" (common teal)



In modern printed form, the text is:

phù ê: là mòng két (nhất danh vịt nước) = "鳬鷖 is the common teal (another name is water duck)"

Re above, also note that 𮕤 itself appears to be a variant or even error for 礼.

Additional evidence from "Kho chữ Hán-Nôm mã hoá", p. 450

This is apparently a Nôm character used by speakers of the Tày language used for the word "khua", which means "to laugh". It's a variant of 嘔.

Kieu1866

The evidence is from "Truyện Kiều", edition of 1870, p. 70

Corrected, same source:

The analysis does suggest a shape of ⿺毛束. The character means "fast", hence the semantic 速. Other evidence from (Tự điển chữ Nôm trích dẫn, p. 754) shows a unifiable variant composed of 毛速 and the analysis says that the semantic, "Ý" is 速 and the phonetic "Âm" is 毛. I will try to ask the author to clarify this, but the evidence below does show that 毛速 is used.

From Takeuchi Yonosuke, "Tự Điển Chữ Nôm":

The original source cited in IRGN1564 for this character shows the TCVN code V4-4363:



The glyph in the source, TĐCN_NQH is this

We would therefore like to request that the kIRG_VSource for this be changed to V4-4363

The image is from 中国京语词典, p 377.

Evidence shows the U+2F940 ⿱十⿺𠃊目 variant of U+76F4 直. Is the proposed form a normalization?

#4646 is a valid observation. The NomNaTong font contains 44 characters with 羊 as an immediate component (not counting 羊 as a component of another component character). All except for 2, U+2637A and U+7FB6 use 羊 with a straight stroke. If any change were to be made, we would probably normalize U+2637A and U+7FB6 to straight 羊.

Agree, we will change the glyph.

The glyph should be normalized to 令. We already did this for a number of characters that had the variant form, but somehow missed this one.

Vietnamese favors 别 over 別. We are considering normalizing this glyph to ⿰糹别

As Eiso points out, 内 U+5185 is more common in Vietnamese Nôm usage and we have generally, but not completely normalized the glyphs in the NomNaTong font to use this shape. We can consider further normalizations in the future. Note, though, that 內 U+5167 as a stand alone character is also used in Vietnamese and we will probably propose horizontal extension in the future.

We propose changing the shape of the right side component to 弔, since that is the more common shape, as in V1-5449 弔. This would also match the structural analysis shown in the source. The IDS would change back to ⿰𧾷弔

We propose normalization of the glyph and IDS to ⿱雨别

The source ref should be V2-7D42

The source ref should be V2-6F59.

Source ref should be V3-3232

U+2C4B2 in turn is a variant of 祓 (U+7953), see https://zi.tools/zi/𬒲

The evidence only shows that this character is used to indicate the reading of the intial of 搊, whos readings in other sources are variously given as 楚鳩切, 初尤切, 楚蒐切. The reading for 簉 (U+7C09) is 初救切, thus matching the one of the initials. Given the shape, this is possibly a variant of 簉,

This looks like a variant of U+2E571

The text says that U+2E803 is the name of something written as SAT-06780. I can't find a defintion of U+2E803, but with the 邑 radical, it could be a place name. Given the resemblance of SAT-06780 to 縣 (U+7E23), it's likely that the text is saying that U+2E803 is the name of a "county" (or similar subdivision), i.e. 縣 (U+7E23). So SAT-06780 is probably a variant of 縣.

This character is used to indicate the fanqie of 森, elsewhere given as 疏簪. Could this be a variant of 簪?

Other versions of the Er Ya have "蚹蠃，螔蝓也", so this is possibly a variant of 螔

Looks like a variant of 算 (U+7B97)

This is similar, identical components, but different arrangement, to TE-2360 ⿰木⿱竹𭅗.

Agree with #8850 that the structure is similar, but note that the derivation is very different, since the phonetic for VN-F1B4A is 𠬠 (một), which is a simplified form of the right side of 没. So, this is a simplified form of 𧋶 (U+272F6), non cognate with U+2723B. There are a few cases where the full form 殳 is used for with phonetic values related to "một", such as V4-4541 ⿰殳失 (mất), which is a simplified form of V4-4C41 𪶟 (U+2AD9F), so it is possible that U+2723B exists for "mọt", but in general, it's best to keep characters using 𠬠 and 殳 separate.

Evidence says that this is a variant of U+2C4B2 ⿰礻叐

Meaning given as proper form of 箭. The shape is a rearrangement of the components of U+25CED 𥳭, another variant of 箭, so the 3 characters can be considered semantic variants.

The evidence notes the equivalents to 䕪 (U+456A)

Evidence shows that this is a variant of 箭 (U+7BAD).

眴 U+7734

虎 (U+864E): evidence says this means a tiger, with claws resembling [fingers of a] human. Hence the 人 in place of 儿.

𦐉 (U+26409), 𦏿 (U+263FF)

肝 (U+809D)

The evidence says that this is a popular form of 蕤 (U+8564)

舁 (U+8201): Version of Shuowen cited by Zi.tools has 興起也。从舁, so we can assume that 舁 are semantic variants. Could discuss unification.

Identical with one of the variants of U+24956 at https://zi.tools/zi/𤥖

縮 (U+7E2E)

Evidence suggests that this a variant of 𥢼 (U+258BC), which in turn is a variant of 積.

U+7E3E 績

蟀 U+87C0 and 𧍓 (U+27353)

The evidence shows that this is a variant of U+6900 椀, and according to dict.variants.moe.edu.tw, 椀 and the similar character, 㼝 (U+3F1D), are variants.

Also note that the 死 element appears in another variant ⿱死皿.

窳 (U+7AB3), reading and meaning are similar.

The evidence says the meaning is "to form a soundless smile" and quotes a passage from the Analects, which is now more commonly rendered: 夫子莞爾而笑, so this is apparently interchangeable with 莞 (U+839E) which also describes a type of smile. The meanings of 莞 also overlap with 萈 (U+8408) and 莧 (U+83A7), which dictionaries such as Kangxi cite as semantic variants. Might consider unification with 萈 (U+8408) or 莧 (U+83A7) based on similar shape.

誑 U+8A91

聰 (U+8070)

蝶 (U+8776)

The reading given, "zhuó", suggests that this is a variant of U+24968 and U+7422 琢, but from the right side element, 㒸, we would expect "suì". It would be helpful to get more evidence about meaning and reading.

According to Taiwan MOE, this is a variant of 篡 (U+7BE1)
https://dict.variants.moe.edu.tw/variants/rbt/word_attribute.rbt?quote_code=QTAzMDI5

Reading "wǎn" and element 盌 suggest this could be another variant of 碗:

variant of U+7936 礶?

濸 (U+6FF8): components are identical, minor difference in arrangement

It agree the we need more evidence. Reading and shape suggest a variant of U+7AA9 窩

Possibly related to U+3F5B 㽛, of which one of the 2 meanings in Kangxi is 畦.

The evidence places this character after the entry for 桼 (U+687C), with the note, 俗, so it appears that this is a common / vulgar form of 桼 (U+687C)

䒐 (U+4490): one of the meanings given for U+4490 at zi.tools is 急躁, 'short-tempered', which suggests some semantic overlap with this character's definition, 'impatient';

I agree that there is semantic overlap between VN-F0208 and V0-384B / U+22D16 with regards to the meanings related to "gợi". However, based on the evidence we currently have, VN-F0208 is not found in contexts where the other readings of U+22D16, khui, khơi, and khảy, are appropriate. So, they should be encoded separately.

楝 (U+695D). Note: 𫠣 is an 二簡 form of 柬, so 楝 might also be considered a traditional variant of VN-F06D7

巤 (U+5DE4)

𧕚 (U+2755A)

𡱸 (U+21C78)

𤶒 (U+24D92)

𣍊 U+2334A

𧕪 U+2756A is formally a traditional form of this character.

UTC-00664

U+764A

U+2756F 𧕯

斅 (U+6585)

U+24EB4

𬗵 U+2C5F5

kFanqie 古安

kFanqie: 𢯱六

kFanqie 倉公

According to this note from the Wikipedia article about the person with this name, https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ショウ王#cite_note-1, ジョウ is another possibility for kJapanese.