Unify to 𡝩 (U+21769)?

unify to 厐 (U+5390)?

[Mr. Ma Shijie provided the comments, but what he wrote is not clear enough. Eiso rewrites after studying.]

The submitted character related to one word 醇～ on the evidence, which should be the variant form of the word 淳龐, that means the local people are honest and warm-hearted or the local customs are simple and homely. This is a stable word.

U+5390 厐 is the variant of 龐 or 龎. The only barrier is that we don’t have the UCV or any rule to support the unification.

Unify to 𚾘 (U+1AF98) (tentative). See L2/24-201

Unify to 甿 (U+753F) and add 亾兦 to UCV #143.

Unified to 讟 (U+8B9F) in irg51.

See WS2017-04035
[ {{WS2017-04035}} ]

Unify to 㱿 (U+3C7F)?

We need a new UCV for 𡉉 and 𠕓 like UCV #222a.

Unify to 涤 as Comment #3121.

UCV #194 has been expanded at IRG #63, see Appendix B.18 of IRG N2703 Editorial Report for IRG Meeting #63.

[The following comment was put forward by Mr. Ma Shijie.]



unify to 𫃛 (U+2B0DB)?

全字庫 shows the reading of U+2B0DB 𫃛 is also yìn.

⿰公隹 has not been encoded, but we can add ⿰公隹 and 雄 as UCV pair. ⿰公隹 is OK to encode separately later.

unify to 𨨫 (U+28A2B) per UCV #336.

The evidence shows the reading is hái, and the semantic element is 金, the phonetic element is 采. The evidence shows they are unifiable variants.

Agree, TS=8

Agree with Lee to update the FS as 3.

Agree, FS=3

SC=16, TS=17

⿽见丨

⿹了丶

⿰尾童

Add the secondary radical as 196.1 (鸟), SC=6, FS=3.

Based on Evidence 2, the meaning is related to “hawk”, Evidence 1 looks the variant of 鹞.

⿱艹汨

The evidence shows it is the variant of 荡/蕩, and the top component of 昜 is 日 not 曰, so 汨 is more suitable.

3

⿵门⿱𰁜大

Based on three pieces of evidence (2 submitted and 1 new), the glyph should be ⿵门⿱𰁜大 not ⿵门奕. Evidence 1 shows the Putonghua reading is luán, that means the top of the inside part is 𰁜, the variant of 䜌 not 亦.

In PRC conventions, 𰁜 and 亦 are not the same. So, the theoretical traditional form should be ⿵門⿱䜌大 not ⿵門奕.

We can find 峦塘 and 栾塘 in 永福县.

⿱竹𫜹

Add the secondary radical as 141.0 (虍) for the semantic element, SC=12, FS=2

This Zhuang word “guk” means “tiger”.

▲ 《壮汉英词典》, p. 533

《古壮字字典》 shows ⿺虎骨.
[WS2021-03500]

FS=3

SC=13, TS=17

Swap the primary RS and the secondary RS to match the traditional form.

IDS has not been updated to ⿵门屯

Add ⿰贝睿 for UTC-03291.

⿰氵棑 will be better?

FS=2

IDS has not been changed to ⿺風卜 yet.

SC=3, TS=11 if Comment #9949 been accepted.

Support Comment #7977.

⿰⿹节丿⿹节丿

Add the secondary radical as 122.0 (网), SC=13, FS=1

For this character, the semantic element is 罙 (<深, the corresponding Bouyei word is lag [lak⁸] ⿰氵㓁), the phonetic element is 革 (<勒 laeg. This is 老借, and the corresponding 新借 is lwz).

For U+23F37 𣼷, SE=氵/水, PE=勒/laeg.
For U+3072F 𰜯, SE=深/水, PE=力/lig.

Add the secondary radical as 37.0 (大), SC=8, FS=5

FS=2

IDS has not been changed to ⿺风朋 yet.

⿺荒无

⿰⿻㇉丿丶?

⿰氵𤉹

⿰言卆
Support HKSAR (Comment #3294).

⿲彳𮱨攵

⿳宀十𣌢

⿱𫇦殘

⿰馬誊

⿱⿰彖攵皿

⿰牛華

⿱艹禿

If Comment #7672 been accepted, IDS should be updated as well.

⿱⿻十𠈌回

⿰𠯳頁

⿸疒不

不 in the submitted IDS is U+F967

Add the secondary radical as 66.2 (攵), SC=9, FS=3

⿱敬日

⿺廴己

⿱日必

See the radical

⿱艹𡷇

⿱宀𬍼

Agree with Conifer on Comment #2271. ROK could normalize the glyph.

⿴〇⿻冂𠃊

Agree with HKSAR, but Evidence 1 shows ⿱⿲㚔手乚衣.

⿰⿱罒⿺⿽十二二毛 or ⿰⿱罒𠦂毛

⿰亻⿱山⿻龰⺕

⿰犭⿱山黒

⿹⺄月 will be better.

⿰⿱⺈田炎

⿰忄⿻人口

⿱𦲶一

⿰𧾷⿱山⿻龰⺕

Change Radical to 145.0 (衣), SC=10, FS=2
The variant of 褻 (U+893B)

Move 140.0 as the secondary radical.

⿰𠕓殳

⿰忄⿱山母

⿰扌⿱穴友

It is also normalized the glyph to match IDS and Evidence 2 not 3.

⿰禾𥹺

⿰火⿳日龷⿺⿽十仌仌 or ⿰火⿳日艹⿻丅⿱从丛 or ⿰火⿳日龷⿻丨⿱从丛

⿰𠯓刂

⿰口⿱𱖴水

also ⿰口⿺⿱田儿其

⿲口馬𬯵

Add the secondary radical as 10.0 (儿), SC=12, FS=2.

The reading is ㄍㄧㆬ, that means 金 is the phonetic element, and 光 is the semantic element. The radical of 光 is 儿 in KX.

⿱雨旣

or normalize the glyph to match current IDS.

Add the secondary radical as 8.0 (亠), SC=14, FS=3 for the semantic element.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼一.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=11.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼太.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=14.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼孔.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=14.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼日.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=14.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼右.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=15.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼玉.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=15.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼向.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=16.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼安.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=16.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼曲.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=16.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼虫.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=16.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼志.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=17.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼折.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=17.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼灴.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=17.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼灼.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=17.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼辛.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=17.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼制.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=18.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼定.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=18.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼幸.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=18.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼青.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=18.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼俞.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=19.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼兹.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=19.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼律.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=19.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼炫.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=19.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼炳.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=19.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼皇.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=19.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼勑.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼朒.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼烘.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼烜.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼烟.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼舀.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼蚓.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=20.

The current glyph shows ⿺⿱田儿⿰⿳人乛口牛, which matches the evidence.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼執.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=21.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼𡝤, ⿺鬼婁.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=21.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼張.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=21.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼絃.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=21.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼蛇.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=21.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼𬊒.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=21.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼景.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼晶.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼淼.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼華.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼軸.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼項.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼𤊄.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼𪿢.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼𭴼.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼暉.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=23.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼對.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=24.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼精.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=24.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼緊.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=24.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼億.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=25.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼震.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=25.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼磪.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=26.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼融.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=26.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼醜.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so SC=17, TS=27.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼爍.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=29.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼瓊.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=29.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼識.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=29.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼𡅗.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=32.

Add the alternative IDS as ⿺鬼灝.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=34.

Change Radical to 173.2 (⻗), SC=8, FS=3.

Add the secondary radical as 154.0 (貝), SC=9, FS=4

TCA didn’t provide the reading, but 全字庫 shows yīn.


Maybe this character is also the variant of 韻 or 𩐳 in some usages. So, the phonetic element could be 音.

FS=4


IRGN945AR

Add the secondary radical as 44.0 (尸), SC=11, FS=3 based on Comment #8810 and the reading.

SC=10, TS=16, the right component is counted as 𥁕.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=17.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as the same as 10, so TS=16. UK glyph matches.

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=24.

Add the secondary radical as 37.0 (大), SC=19, FS=5

SC=16, TS=19

It is OK to keep current T glyph, but it is better to count ⿱田儿 as 鬼 the same as 10, so TS=22. UK glyph matches.

FS=5? cf. WS2024-03745

03745

車 159.9.5

UK-30341

TS 16 · IDS ⿰車盈

IRGN2750WS2024v2.0Unified&Withdrawn
Unified to 03742, IRG 63.

⿸鹿虚

⿺⿺見見⿹⿿見⿿見?

Support HKSAR to update the IDS to ⿱𭸾金 as Comment #3317 shows.

For this case, the semantic rationale is that the semantic element is 烏 based on the corresponding Chinese word of “crow” 烏鴉, the phonetic element is 戈 (qua). The current only radical of 烏 is R86.0, so we use R86.0 firstly.

If we add the secondary RS for U+70CF 烏 as 196.-1, the secondary RS for U+4E4C 乌 as 196'.-1, we can consider using R196 as the preliminary radical, and SC=3 (-1+4), FS=1.





The RS for the following variants of 烏/乌 should be considered to be updated correspondingly.
U+200B6 𠂶 196.-1?


U+2CEC6 𬻆 196.-4 (-1-3)? cf. U+2B813 𫠓




U+2DD1A 𭴚 196.-1?



There are other characters related the components 烏/乌.
U+3137C 𱍼 196'.2 (-1+3)?


U+31AF3 𱫳 196.3 (-1+4)?


WS2021-01355 ⿰乌恶 196'.9 (-1+10)?
[WS2021-01355]

⿱鄉日

The right part is WS2021-02254, we should update the IDS when WS2021-02254 is encoded in UCS and Unicode.
[WS2021-02254]

IDS has not been updated to ⿰𧾷邦 yet.

Change Radical to 168.0 (長), SC=12, FS=5, and move the current RS to the secondary ones.

Also
⿰&Z5-01;免

Then SC=9 based on Comment #8938.

Add the secondary radical as 76.0 (欠), SC=10, FS=4

See WS2021-01904:VN-F1BDD
[WS2021-01904]

Change Radical to 108.0 (皿) or add it as the secondary one, SC=15, FS=3

The semantic element is 盘, and the phonetic element is 音. 音 reads as ʔɤm¹ and ʔom¹

For Comment #10021, understand Lee’s comment. In IRG N2412R, the authors pointed out this issue, and IRG discussed it during IRG #53 in Shenzhen. The following is the recommendation IRG M53.6.


In the subsequent actual operation in our review works, we include two kinds of radicals. We may have the following possibilities, and we can choose one of them.
(1) The intuitive radical is the primary one, the semantic radical is the secondary one.
(2) The semantic radical is the primary one, the intuitive radical is the secondary one.

Sematic element is 圆, phonetic element is 甘, so it is better to keep the secondary RS.

Could we treat 𫠓 as Radical 196.2 in IRG works? If yes, change the radical to 196.2.

Evidence 4 shows ⿱勾黾, Evidence 5 shows U+31301 𱌁

The glyph and IDS have not been updated yet.

We once discussed the similar glyph issue at WS2017-01024. Also see John’s document.

The Zhuang reading of U+316B9 𱚹 is sux*. For the standard reading, the tone mark -x/-ч corresponds to 阳上 (John said this reading is used in Longzhou Zhuang), but the tone of 昼 should be 阴去 (-q/-ƽ). On the other hand, the middle Chinese finals (韵母) of 手 and 昼 are the same, and one 老借 reading of 手 I collected is suj; that 知母 reads as [s-]/[θ-] is very common. For common 腔词结合 rule in Cantonese Yueju Opera, Cantonese Yuequ Show and Cantonese pop songs, 阳上 (Tone 5) and 阴去 (Tone 3) could mean to the same musical scale, such as 上 (Gongche) for 平喉.

The semantic rationale of U+316B9 𱚹 in Zhuang and Tày is still NOT obvious. If it is the way like 臼 and 旧, 幺 and 么 to distinguish the meanings, the submitted glyph is acceptable; if we can not confirm this, it is better to change the glyph to match the evidence.

Evidence 1 shows 𥄎 (U+2510E).

[The following comment was put forward by Mr. Ma Shijie.]

The glyph on the evidence looked like U+6A3A 樺 K0-7B7C.



There is only one case related to KC-10030 in 국사편찬위원회.



But, there are 8 cases related to 白樺皮.



[Note from Eiso]
I can’t find more evidence for this character. Maybe ROK needs to find more to prove it isn’t the a one-off case?

清乾隆四十九年/朝鲜正祖八年/日本天明四年/后黎景興四十五年/阮泰德七年/甲辰龍年冬月初二 means 1784-12-13.

I think Suzuki-san means U+27E15 𧸕 in Comment #3831, which is the variant of U+27E05 𧸅.

We need to understand what this character mean, and then to confirm if it is suitable to unify it with U+27E15 𧸕.

Evidence 2 looked more like ⿰𧾷𬉹. Is it the variant of U+28082 𨂂?

How to confirm to identify if the character is ⿰氵寀 or ⿰氵宷 (KC-12225)?

The evidence looks more like ⿰氵宷.

The evidence shows “按遼薊三千餘里，冠蓋所往來，舟車所要衝。統浿～四十二州，川蜀之殷富，蘇杭之佳麗。” 遼薊 means 遼地 (current 辽宁) and 薊地 (current 河北, 北京, 天津), 川蜀 means current 四川 and 重庆, 蘇杭 means 蘇州 (苏州) and 杭州, so 浿～ must be one or two places. 《舊唐書·卷三十九·志第十九》 shows “高麗本五部，一百七十六城，户六十九萬七千。其年十二月，分高麗地為九都督府，四十二州，一百縣，置安東都護府於平壤城以統之。” The year (其年) means 總章元年 (aka 668 A.D.), so that 四十二州 means Koryo (高麗/고려). 浿水 means current Taedong River in current Phyeongyang and other cities and provinces of DPRK/North Korea, so ～ may be the other river in Koryo, but I can’t find which one is.

It looks a very important geographical term in Korean. We should take it more carefully.

Thanks for Huang Junliang’s help, the river should be 薩水 in the Chinese ancient books, which is current Ch'ongch'on River (淸川江/청천강) in DPRK/North Korea. 《北史·列傳·卷七十九》 shows “東濟薩水，去平壤城三十里”. 《朝鮮王朝實錄》 shows “平安道有急, 則將長山串以西兵船, 載於阿郞浦, 則平壤 浿江、安州 薩水漕可通也。” 安州 is under Phyeongannamto (平安南道/평안남도) now.

As Comment #8485 shows, the glyph should be ⿰言皀.

Will we consider unifying ⿺辶参 to this one in future?


▲ GB/T 7589—1987, 81-73


▲ 蒲松龄; 蒲松龄纪念馆: 《聊斋杂著》, 济南: 齐鲁书社, 2020.1, ISBN 978-7-5333-4245-6, p. 148


▲ 蒲松龄; 李国庆: 《杂字 俗读》 (《古代幼学启蒙经典6》), 济南: 齐鲁书社, 1998.12, ISBN 7-5333-0669-4/I·217, p. 91

[The following comment was put forward by Mr. Ma Shijie.]

The evidence shows the glyph is U+31637 𱘷. We need more evidences.

The evidence shows the Zhuang reading is gyəmƽ (aka gyaemq) and the meaning is 紫色 (purple).


▲ 《壮汉英词典》, p. 569

The component 门 is often used to the meanings of colours, that means the semantic element is 门 (related to colour) and the phonetic element is 金 (currently 老借 is gim, but I trust gyaem is more ancient form). Therefore, there is no need to change anything.

Based on Section A.2.2 of the new version of GB/T 11460 (plan number: 20241890-T-469), 仓 should not do the 避让.



See below.

Normalize to ⿰犭邦?

As Comment #4166 shows, is it better to normalize the glyph to ⿰火邦 to follow PRC convention?

Normalize to ⿰虫邦 to match PRC conventions?

Normalize the glyph to ⿱敝牙? See Comment #6233.

Normalize to ⿰扌剥 to match PRC conventions?

⿰忄乂?

The second horizontal stroke (横) of the bottom left component 牛 should not be 避让 to become 提. The glyph shown on the evidence has been matched PRC conventions.

Normalize the glyph to ⿰飠丈 to follow PRC conventions, and UCV #248 support this normalization.


The semantic element is 食/飠 (<養, bottom), and the phonetic element is 丈 (老借 form is ciengh, 新借 form is cang).

The glyph has not been updated yet to ⿺尼常.

The last stroke should be the dot.

It looks the more reasonable glyph should be ⿱陇大, but it is OK to keep this one.

Normalize the glyph to ⿰令衮 to follow the PRC conventions?

If yes, the IDS should be updated correspondingly, but the SC and TS should be kept.

Support Comment #4775

Evidence 2 shows ⿺⿻㇉丿丶

Glyph to be updated or not?

Normalize to ⿰麥員 to follow PRC conventions.

The right part 戢 doesn’t match K1-6E3B for U+6222 戢.

Normalize the glyph to match the current IDS as ⿱爽田.

U+21641 𡙁 is the unifiable variant of U+723D 爽 per UCV #108, but there is no K-Source reference for U+21641 𡙁 now.





It is better to use ⿱爽田 to match ROK conventions. The Korean reading provided by the submitter is 상, which is the same as 爽.

Normalize to ⿰木戩? 晋 and 晉 are UCV #388.

There is no K-Source under 戬, but K1-6B79 is under 戩.

The evidence shows ⿱艹黙, and we trust 默 and 黙 are unifiable.

The K-Source for U+9ED8 默 is K0-5979, but U+9ED9 黙 is K6-1021.





Suggest normalizing the K glyph to ⿱艹默.

Modify the bottom as 儿 to follow K0-543E glyph for U+79BF 禿.



There is no K-Source glyph under U+79C3 秃.

The current glyph (outside part of the right part of the right bottom part) has not followed ROK conventions as K0-5F31 shows.

The right part has not followed the ROK conventions. The bottom of the right part should be 𡈼, see K0-6F50 for U+5448 呈.

Evidence 1 shows the glyph as ⿱山⿸丆㇈

The glyphs on Evidence 2 and Evidence 3 are different.

Support Comment #2425.

The new evidence on Comment #9875, the right part of this character follows 戹 like 阸, 𩚬, 㧖, 呝.

IDS and evidence show ⿰𦾔阝, and glyph shows ⿰舊阝. Should the glyph be modified or normalized?

Update the glyph to ⿰亻態 to match the evidence and IDS

Evidences 1 & 3 shows ⿺辶⿱罒⿻亻𠔁.

Evidences 2 & 3 show the glyph as ⿰弓⿱𠆢壐.

The first stroke of 壬 in TCA (and HKSAR, MSAR) conventions is the horizontal stroke 横, not 撇.

The bottom component of the right part is 儿 not 几 for TCA conventions.

Does TCA plan to normalize the glyph if possible?

See U+8794 螔, U+892B 褫, U+8B15 謕, U+29E9B 𩺛 and so on.

The right part of the current V glyph has matched the common design of the 豸 component. cf. U+8C79 U+8C7A

Similar to VN Norm. Rule 2-3, but we need one new rule. UCV #298j support the normalization.

Consider normalizing to ⿰𧾷面. There is V2-9136 under 面, but no V-source under 靣.

The evidence shows the reading of the right part is diện, which must be 面.

It is better to consider to normalize the right part as 禿 as V1-6130 shows.



There is no V-source reference under U+79C3 秃 now.

The V-Source reference for U+6D85 涅 is V1-5C4C.



There are no V-Source reference for U+6E7C 湼 and U+23D40 𣵀.





Vietnam could do the normalization for this case, so I think the current glyph is acceptable.

Also see WS2021-00762
[WS2021-00762]

Evidence 3 is the evidence for WS2024-00965:GCW-00091, which should be removed.

Evidence 1 has not been removed yet.

The book name of Evidence 1 is 《汉文佛典疑难俗字汇释与研究》.

This character is not related to WS2024-01250:GDM-00403 ⿰山𡿺.

01250

山 46.9.5

GDM-00403

TS 12 · IDS ⿰山𡿺

Remove Evidence 7 and 8, which are related to U+2CBE1 𬯡

The evidence for this character and WS2021-03520 don’t show the usage for the geographic names, but the G-Source for this character is GDM. Could we need to know how to use this one for the geographic names?

Remove Evidence 2, new evidence on Comment #9128 is the modern one.

Remove the PUA as the similar character, which is ⿰貴氐 and has not been encoded.

Remove U+F79AA as the similar character.

Remove U+FC88B as the semantic variant

Remove U+F29C9 as the variants.

Remove U+F6192 as the similar character.

The Korean reading should be 방 based on Comment #9387.

Resubmitted character, see WS2017-03140.
[ {{WS2017-03140}} ]

koreanhistory.or.kr shows the glyph as ⿰衤則.

See WS2021-01439
[WS2021-01439]

The red square on Evidence 1 shows ⿰白㇯侯亻.

This character does not match U+2DC3C 𭰼, but Moji Joho did not provide any useful information.



It is better to keep them separately.

Remove Evidence 1, it is not related.

VN Norm. Rule 2-1

The same as Z2-3 mentioned in IRG N2733R, but it is the real Hanzi. It is better to remove it from the CJK component.

similar to U+2101B 𡀛

⿹节丿 is a common vulgar variant of 第 in Guangdong and Guangxi. We need to encode it in future.

The phonetic element must be 韋 (viz? The 老借 form of 位 is vih, and the 新借 form of 韦 is veiz, and 位 is vei), but it is not easy to understand the semantic rationale of the right part 迷. 《古壮字字典》 shows two relative entries, one is used for the Zhuang word “maex” (wife), the other one is used for the Zhuang word “mwh” (period, time). On the other hand, the 老借 form of 迷 is maez, the 新借 form is miz.

If we can’t clarify the right part, it is better to keep current radical without more radicals.

Related to U+20904 𠤄?

The current Korean reading looked not right, that should be 신, because this character is the variant of 顖(囟) according to the evidence.

The same as H6-4 mentioned in IRG N2733R, but it is the real Hanzi. It is better to remove it from the CJK component.

similar to U+8299 芙?

The right part is WS2024-00249:GCW-00019

00249

几 16.3.2

GCW-00019

TS 5 · IDS ⿱几口

Not unified to 㕣 U+3563, IRG 63.

Similar to U+66B9 暹

Looks similar to WS2024-00214, but the reading of WS2024-00214 is totally different from this one.

00214

八 12.5.2

GZHSJ-0020

TS 7 · IDS ⿳内一八

Looks like the variant of 興

The reading shows lóng, which looks the variant of U+26A29 𦨩.

The provided reading is bīn, which looks more like ⿱艹邠.

The variant of 徵?

Similar to U+7066 and U+30764

Similar to U+758E 疎

Similar to U+6F2A 漪

The variant of U+3798 㞘?

In the new evidence mentioned in Comment #158, ⿰糹遊 has not been encoded yet.

similar to U+2EA07 𮨇



This character is also the variant of U+9867 顧.

Also WS2015-04955

Related to WS2021-00651 ⿰口叠
[WS2021-00651]

Also see WS2015-00414:00414.

Similar to U+4654 䙔

The glyph looks related to U+3152E 𱔮, but the meaning is not.

similar to U+23D23 𣴣

Similar to U+2D86A 𭡪

Similar to U+23813 𣠓

See WS2017-03690

It looks ⿱艹⿵冂⿲纟丨虫 will be better.

⿰閑見 has not been encoded yet, but ROK could submit it as KC-03863 in future.

Looks like U+2114E 𡅎

Japan could consider to move or update MJ000037 to this character later, it is OK to do the horizontal extension as JMJ-000037.