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KC-07659
IRGN2444WS2017v5.2 Pending
postponed for KR Normalization Rules, 2020-11.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2017 v3
The right-lower part of the character in the evidence looks like "夊"(U+590A).
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2019-02-20 06:03:49
#4475
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2017 v3
KR will change lower part to 夊(U+590A).
ROK
2019-05-14 03:30:53
#5582
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2017 v5
Although the right-lower part of the character in the evidence looks like 夊 (U+590A), it seems to be the convention of Korea to adopt 夂 rather than 夊. E.g.:
Code chart:





HKSAR
Hong Kong
2020-03-10 09:22:31
#7892
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5
U+799D
Unifiable with 禝 (U+799D) per KR Normalization rule 11-4.
WANG Yifan
SAT
2020-03-13 05:22:17
#8067
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5
Disagree.
KC-07659 is used historical place name in Korea.
This character is exceptional case of KR Normalization rule 11-4.
ROK
2020-05-09 17:59:17
#8898
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5
I guess if KR Normalization rule 11-4 is suitable for normalization, we need to know or prove they are real variant with the same meaning; if not, it's better to keep them separately. Therefore, when Yifan or other expert hoped to unify KC-07659 with 禝 (U+799D), he or other should provide the evidence or explanation to prove they are variant.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2020-05-22 14:42:35
#9043
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5
The text is a part of speech given to gwageo passers.
https://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/991068/28

The passage 「杏壇、槐市,增多鼓篋之徒。米廪、禝(稷)山,蔚有横經之子。」
describes the flourishing scholarship in ancient China (or as a metaphor), where all 杏壇, 槐市, and 米廪 are historical seats of learning in China. Hence the last 稷山 should also be a metonymy for a Chinese academic institution, namely 稷下, rather than a Korean place name. As a result, the character must be a synonymous variant of 稷.
WANG Yifan
SAT
2020-06-05 07:25:08
#9065
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5.1
WANG Yifan gave a accurate judgement. 杏壇(孔子講壇)、槐市(漢朝書市)、米廪(魯國之學)、稷山(齊國之學) are the names of ancient seats of learning of China, 鼓篋、横經 are ceremonys of Confucianism,so KC-07659 is truely a synonymous variant of 稷.
TAO Yang
China
2020-09-16 14:30:41
#9125
Unification
DISUNIFICATION
WS2017 v5.1
Since this char is used for a place name, KR suggests that this char not be unified.
KR will add a general principle in KR Normalization Rules doc. that, in general, chars used for personal or place names (proper nouns) are not necessarily subject to this KR Norm. Rules.
ROK
2020-10-19 01:06:06
#9644

Discussion Record

DateDescription

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.2
For 03959, add Discussion Record "postponed for KR Normalization Rules, 2020-11."
5.2
For 03959, change Status to Postponed
Note: change record for version 3.0 and before is not available yet.

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
KC-07659
2.0
🢂
5.0
Note: glyph data for version 1.1 is not available.

Raw Info
0 - Seq. No.03959
1 - Discussion Recordpostponed for KR Normalization Rules, 2020-11.
2 - Kangxi Radical145
3 - Stroke Count10
4 - First Stroke2
5 - T/S (0/1) Flag0
6 - IDS⿰衤畟
7 - Total Strokes16
8 - G Source
9 - G Image
10 - G Similar Ideographs
11 - G Ref. to Evidence doc
12 - G Page No. in the document (optional)
13 - G Row No. in the Page (optional)
14 - G Position in the Row (optional)
15 - G file name of evidence image
16 - G Optional Information
17 - K SourceKC-07659
18 - K ImageKC-07659.bmp
19 - K Similar/ Variants
20 - K Ref. to Evidence document國史編纂委員會 高麗史 3卷 世家 3卷
21 - i1) Page No. in the evidence document (optional)
22 - i2) Row No. in the page (optional)
23 - i3) Position No. in the row (optional)
24 - K file name of evidence imageKC-07659.jpg
25 - K Revised information (2018.03.16)
26 - K Real Glyph
27 - UK Source
28 - UK Image
29 - UK Similar/ Variants
30 - UK Ref. to Evidence doc
31 - UK Title and Year
32 - UK Page No.
33 - UK PNG Image
34 - UK Font code point
35 - UK Mapping to traditional or simplified character
36 - UK SJT-11239-2001
37 - UK Notes
38 - SAT Source
39 - SAT Image
40 - SAT Similar Ideographs
41 - SAT References to evidence documents
42 - SAT optional information
43 - T Source
44 - T Image
45 - T Similar/ Varianonets
46 - T References to evidence documents A
47 - T References to evidence documents B
48 - T File name of evidence image
49 - T Real Glyph
50 - UTC Source
51 - UTC Image
52 - UTC Similar Ideographs
53 - UTC References to evidence documents
54 - UTC SJ/T 11239-2001
55 - V Source
56 - V Image
57 - V Related
58 - V Reading
59 - V Evidence
60 - V Evidence File
61 - V Code Point
62 - V Note
63 - WS2015 SN
64 -