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鬼 194.9
&P8-04;𭺾
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T13-3D26
IRGN2480WS2017v6.1 Unified & Withdrawn
Withdrawn, new UCV rules [𭺾, 畢], [⿱田儿,鬼] to be added, IRG 56.
withdrawn (unified to 魓 (U+9B53)); 158, add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and variants listed in #10007., IRG 56.
ids=⿺&P8-04;𭺾,Suggest to add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and &P8-04; to 鬼,2020-11.
Similar To: 畢 (U+7562)
U+2DEBEU+2DEBE
U+7562U+7562
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v1.1
U+9B53
Unify to 魓.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2018-05-14 00:00:00
#515
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v2
U+9B53
Unify to 魓.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2018-09-01 19:22:13
#2307
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2017 v3
Change IDS to ⿺⿱田儿畢. [UTC]
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2019-01-28 18:18:19
#3890
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2017 v3
Agree IDS change to ⿺⿱田儿畢.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2019-05-07 06:26:18
#4984
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5
[Unattended Comments Follow-up] (Unification)
WANG Yifan
SAT
2020-01-14 08:18:56
#7598
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2017 v5
No UCV rules.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2020-05-05 07:40:16
#8827
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2017 v5.1
Given the right component is rather than 畢, the IDS should be changed from ⿺&P8-04;畢 to ⿺&P8-04;.
Reference: Code chart: (Ext F)
HKSAR
Hong Kong
2020-09-23 07:41:31
#9286
Unification
UCV
WS2017 v5.1
[ Unresolved ]
Suggest to add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and &P8-04; to 鬼.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2020-10-04 16:53:54
#9550
Other
COMMENT
WS2017 v5.2
[ Unresolved ]
More examples of the variation between ⿱田儿 and 鬼:



Henry CHAN
Individual
2021-03-16 01:08:48
#9990
Unification
UCV
WS2017 v5.2
[ Unresolved ]
Based on the discussion, it is suggested the new UCV rule "⿱田儿 and 鬼 for etymological derivation only to 鬼"
Henry CHAN
Individual
2021-03-16 01:09:36
#9991
Unification
UCV
WS2017 v5.2
[ Unresolved ]
TCA's &P8-04; contains two shapes which could be included in UCV together.
SAT also has the first variant with extra stroke.

WANG Yifan
SAT
2021-03-16 01:30:38
#9992
Unification
UCV
WS2017 v5.2
[ Unresolved ]
TAO Yang
China
2021-03-16 14:47:32
#10007

Discussion Record

DateDescription
IRG #56
2021-03-16 (Tue)
9:14 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
withdrawn (unified to 魓 (U+9B53)); 158, add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and &田儿 to 鬼.
IRG #56
2021-03-17 (Wed)
8:58 pm +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
withdrawn (unified to 魓 (U+9B53)); 158, add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and variants listed in #10007.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.2
For 04844, change IDS to ⿺&P8-04;𭺾
5.2
For 04844, add Discussion Record "ids=⿺&P8-04;𭺾,Suggest to add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and &P8-04; to 鬼,2020-11."
6.0
For 04844, change Status to Withdrawn
6.0
For 04844, update Discussion Record to "Withdrawn, new UCV rules [𭺾, 畢], [⿱田儿,鬼] to be added, IRG 56."
Note: change record for version 3.0 and before is not available yet.

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
T13-3D26
2.0
Note: glyph data for version 1.1 is not available.

Raw Info
0 - Seq. No.04844
1 - Discussion RecordWithdrawn, new UCV rules [𭺾, 畢], [⿱田儿,鬼] to be added, IRG 56. ids=⿺&P8-04;𭺾,Suggest to add UCV for 𭺾 (U+2DEBE) to 畢 (U+7562) and &P8-04; to 鬼,2020-11.
2 - Kangxi Radical194
3 - Stroke Count9
4 - First Stroke2
5 - T/S (0/1) Flag0
6 - IDS⿺&P8-04;𭺾
7 - Total Strokes16
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25 - K Revised information (2018.03.16)
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29 - UK Similar/ Variants
30 - UK Ref. to Evidence doc
31 - UK Title and Year
32 - UK Page No.
33 - UK PNG Image
34 - UK Font code point
35 - UK Mapping to traditional or simplified character
36 - UK SJT-11239-2001
37 - UK Notes
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53 - UTC References to evidence documents
54 - UTC SJ/T 11239-2001
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57 - V Related
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59 - V Evidence
60 - V Evidence File
61 - V Code Point
62 - V Note
63 - WS2015 SN
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