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T13-3169
IDS=⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶, IRG 53.
not unified to U+6C11, irg51.
Similar To: 民 (U+6C11)
U+6C11U+6C11
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v1.1
U+6C11
IVD to 民 (U+6C11).
Henry CHAN
Individual
2018-05-14 00:00:00
#383
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2017 v2
U+6C11
IVD to 民 (U+6C11).
Henry CHAN
Individual
2018-08-22 09:05:48
#1993
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2017 v2
Epigraphic form of U+6C11 民. Not appropriate for encoding without additional evidence.

A number of the characters submitted by TCA are based on clerical script (隸書) forms or ancient script (古文) forms of existing encoded characters. In these cases TCA have normalized the clerical script or ancient script form to modern script (with the result that the TCA glyph does not accurately reflect the evidence), but they have provided no evidence that these normalized modern forms are actually used in modern texts or are required for encoding as CJK unified ideographs. We do not consider that it is appropriate to encode normalized forms of clerical script or ancient script characters without evidence of the normalized forms being used in printed texts. We have flagged 32 of the characters submitted by TCA as inappropriate for encoding without additional evidence.
Andrew WEST
UK
2018-09-09 07:16:28
#2844
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2017 v2
Epigraphic form of U+6C11 民. Not appropriate for encoding without additional evidence.

The majority of characters submitted by TCA that we reviewed are epigraphic forms of existing encoded characters that are listed in catalogues of epigraphic character forms used in stone and bronze inscriptions, such as Bēi Biézì Xīnbiān 碑別字新編 and Piānlèi Bēi Biézì 偏類碑別字. We do not consider that it is appropriate to encode these variant forms of characters without additional evidence of actual use in printed texts. We recommend using IVD to represent epigraphic, calligraphic and ancient forms of existing encoded characters if there is no evidence of actual use in printed texts. We have flagged 174 of the characters submitted by TCA as requiring additional evidence of actual use in printed texts.
Andrew WEST
UK
2018-09-09 17:51:15
#2846
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2017 v4
Should the IDS be changed from ⿻⿻民彡丶 to ⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶?
HKSAR
Hong Kong
2019-09-04 08:56:13
#6385
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2017 v4
Agree IDS change to ⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2019-10-08 08:38:51
#6732

Discussion Record

DateDescription
IRG #51
2018-10-24 (Wed)
1:38 pm +0700
Recorded by Henry CHAN
NOT_UNIFIED_TO
U+6C11
U+6C11
IRG #51
2018-10-24 (Wed)
1:39 pm +0700
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Evidence accepted.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.0
For 01869, change IDS to ⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶
5.1
For 01869, add Discussion Record "IDS=⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶, IRG 53."
Note: change record for version 3.0 and before is not available yet.

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
T13-3169
2.0
Note: glyph data for version 1.1 is not available.

Raw Info
0 - Seq. No.01869
1 - Discussion RecordIDS=⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶, IRG 53. not unified to U+6C11, irg51.
2 - Kangxi Radical83
3 - Stroke Count4
4 - First Stroke5
5 - T/S (0/1) Flag0
6 - IDS⿻⿻民⿱丿丿丶
7 - Total Strokes8
8 - G Source
9 - G Image
10 - G Similar Ideographs
11 - G Ref. to Evidence doc
12 - G Page No. in the document (optional)
13 - G Row No. in the Page (optional)
14 - G Position in the Row (optional)
15 - G file name of evidence image
16 - G Optional Information
17 - K Source
18 - K Image
19 - K Similar/ Variants
20 - K Ref. to Evidence document
21 - i1) Page No. in the evidence document (optional)
22 - i2) Row No. in the page (optional)
23 - i3) Position No. in the row (optional)
24 - K file name of evidence image
25 - K Revised information (2018.03.16)
26 - K Real Glyph
27 - UK Source
28 - UK Image
29 - UK Similar/ Variants
30 - UK Ref. to Evidence doc
31 - UK Title and Year
32 - UK Page No.
33 - UK PNG Image
34 - UK Font code point
35 - UK Mapping to traditional or simplified character
36 - UK SJT-11239-2001
37 - UK Notes
38 - SAT Source
39 - SAT Image
40 - SAT Similar Ideographs
41 - SAT References to evidence documents
42 - SAT optional information
43 - T SourceT13-3169
44 - T ImageT13-3169.bmp
45 - T Similar/ Varianonets
46 - T References to evidence documents A碑別字新編
47 - T References to evidence documents B
48 - T File name of evidence imageT13-3169.jpg
49 - T Real Glyph
50 - UTC Source
51 - UTC Image
52 - UTC Similar Ideographs
53 - UTC References to evidence documents
54 - UTC SJ/T 11239-2001
55 - V Source
56 - V Image
57 - V Related
58 - V Reading
59 - V Evidence
60 - V Evidence File
61 - V Code Point
62 - V Note
63 - WS2015 SN
64 -