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04378
173.0 雨
SC=24, FS=3 TS=32

UK-20751
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It seems that the evidence does not satisfy IRG PnP 2.1.1.c, so it should be rejected.
IRG PnP 2.1.1.c says: characters must be used in script as characters in text. Logos and images used separately from running text are not acceptable.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-22 15:45:17 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Should be postponed according to experts' opinion in IRGN2579.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-17 14:43:49 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
青玄祭煉鐵罐施食全集, included in 藏外道書
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-18 03:04:42 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE (Response)
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
No reason to postpone as the evidence is clear, and the character is required for digitization of the source text.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-02-20 18:15:52 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
The ⿱雨⿺鬼維 is clearly used in a non-text talisman seperately from running texts around the talisman.

In the evidence I uploaded, it is also teaching how to draw the same talisman. In the context of 青玄祭煉鐵罐施食全集, 霐⿱雨澄𬯿⿱雨𣷠 are clearly illustrated as 三清諱, while the non-ideograph ⿱雨⿺鬼維 is not illustrated.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-12 09:55:57 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
If you only see the book 青玄祭煉鐵罐施食全集, you may wrongly think that ⿱雨⿺鬼維 is an ideograph. But this is actually because the quality of the book 青玄祭煉鐵罐施食全集 is not very good, and the publisher did not present the assembled talismans directly to the readers. In this case, it is necessary to have relevant experts to make judgments, or to have intuitive evidence for comparison (such as the evidence submitted by the UK).
⿱雨⿺鬼維 is actually just a sign used in a special kind of drawings(i.e. the assembled talisman). Without pronounciation or semantics, ⿱雨⿺鬼維 cannot be considered as ideographs.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-13 02:58:03 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
《广成仪制·玉帝正朝集》
Used as 太乙救苦天尊讳. The original talisman evidence should be rejected. But this new evidence can be accepted so ⿱雨⿺鬼維 can be kept in the M-set.

Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 03:32:26 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
11:06 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters (automatically processed by IRG ORT Manager)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04378, add Discussion Record "Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20751
1.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20751
b) PUA Code of TTFE143
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)173.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)24
e) First Stroke (Primary)3
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count32
i) IDS⿱雨⿺鬼維
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k1) References to evidence documents《廣成儀制・鐵鏆施食集》(清宣統二年刊本) folio 26
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20751-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A