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173.0 雨
SC=9, FS=2 TS=17

UK-20776
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It seems that the evidence does not satisfy IRG PnP 2.1.1.c, so it should be rejected.
IRG PnP 2.1.1.c says: characters must be used in script as characters in text. Logos and images used separately from running text are not acceptable.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-22 15:52:38 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Should be postponed according to experts' opinion in IRGN2579.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-17 14:36:03 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE (Response)
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
No reason to postpone as the evidence is clear, and the character is required for digitization of the source text.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-02-20 18:29:58 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
Another page only with 口
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-03-17 14:52:46 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
合明天帝日 is a special word of the Daoist. The order of 合明天帝日 with 雨 and 口 in 《廣成儀制・鐵鏆施食集》 is wrong (合天明帝日).

More information:
https://www.douyin.com/zhuanti/7249837737812117562

https://hc.jsecs.org/irg/ws2021/app/?id=00265


A more common form
http://www.ctcwri.idv.tw/CTCW-CMTS/CMT02%E6%B4%9E%E7%8E%84%E9%83%A8/CMT0202%E7%A5%9E%E7%AC%A6%E9%A1%9E/CMT0202ALL/CH020202%E5%A4%AA%E4%B8%8A%E6%B4%9E%E7%8E%84%E9%9D%88%E5%AF%B6%E7%B4%A0%E9%9D%88%E7%9C%9F%E7%AC%A6/CH020202-1%E5%A4%AA%E4%B8%8A%E6%B4%9E%E7%8E%84%E9%9D%88%E5%AF%B6%E7%B4%A0%E9%9D%88%E7%9C%9F%E7%AC%A6%E5%8D%B7%E4%B8%8A.htm

Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-03-17 15:56:26 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
According to the provided evidence, ⿱雨哈 is a non-ideograph sign created for talismans. It is used with following signs:

It is systematically created by adding 雨+口 to base idegraphs 合明天帝日.
According to our database, ⿱雨叹 can be used as a God's name. However, we found only one related case. Because the secret names of Daoist Gods can be created freely, we consider it a nonce ideograph which is still not qualified for encoding.
If the submitter can provide more text use cases, then it is OK to encode it.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-13 07:51:41 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
《广成仪制·玉帝正朝集》
Used as 东方青灵始老君讳. The original talisman evidence should be rejected. But this new evidence can be accepted so ⿱雨哈 can be kept in the M-set.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 07:28:26 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
⿱雨𱒆 is not submitted until WS2024.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 07:31:42 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
11:09 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters (automatically processed by IRG ORT Manager)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04320, add Discussion Record "Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20776
1.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20776
b) PUA Code of TTFE15D
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)173.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)9
e) First Stroke (Primary)2
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count17
i) IDS⿱雨哈
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k1) References to evidence documents《廣成儀制・鐵鏆施食集》(清宣統二年刊本) folio 66
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20775-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A