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01087
44.0 尸
⿸尸可
SC=5, FS=1 TS=8

UK-20862
Not unified to 局 U+5C40, non-cognate, evidence accepted, IRG 59.
Similar To: 局 (U+5C40)
U+5C40U+5C40
Attributes:

Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
U+5C40
The pronunciation shown on the evidence indicates that it is unifiable to 局.
KWAN Ching Kit
Individual
2022-07-06 19:57:28 UTC
#7793
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
局 is first attested with the meaning of 'to steam' or 'to bake' in Robert Morrison's 1828 《廣東省土話字彙》; and first attested as 焗 in 《粵語全書》 (1905). UK-20862 certainly seems to be the same meaning and Cantonese pronunciation as 局 in this sense. The ⿸尸可 form shown in the evidence may be a mistake for 局, but potentially it is a specific variant of the character used only for the culinary meaning, in which case it should not be unified. Therefore suggest to postpone pending additional evidence.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-07-07 12:26:11 UTC
#7884
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]

▲ 虞學圃、溫岐石輯, 江湖尺牘分韻撮要合集. 1825 (道光 5 年). 貞23


▲ Fung Tinlib 馮田獵, 粤語同音字典. Hong Kong: 東聯學供社, 1974. p. 94


▲ Fung Tinlib 馮田獵, 粤語同音字典. Hong Kong: 東聯學供社, 1996. ISBN 9789628507313 p. 250


▲ Wang Sung Tang 王頌棠, 中華新字典. Guangzhou: 環球書局, 1937. p. 101
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-08-06 09:01:50 UTC
#8904
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The following comment is from the scholar Kin Tin Shek who lived in Hong Kong SAR.

“The source says this is a variant of 局 (U+5C40), but in Canton/Hong Kong the usage is different - ⿸尸可 is a variant of 屙 (to defecate), thus not unifiable with 局 (U+5C40).”

I agree with him, and please see the new evidence on #8904.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-08-06 09:07:37 UTC
#8905
Data for Unihan
COMMENT
WS2021 v3.0
kCantonese o1
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-08-06 09:08:14 UTC
#8906
Other
OTHER
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Maybe we can consider to add this pair to spoofing variants.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-10-19 02:55:08 UTC
#9375
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
莎彝尊 咸豐癸丑孟春《正音咀華》

https://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:SSID-14623716_正音咀華.pdf/319



Cantonese, today written as 屙.
L F CHENG
Individual
2023-09-30 03:40:49 UTC
#14191

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #59
2022-10-19 (Wed)
10:52 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 局 U+5C40, non cognate., Evidence accepted

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 01087, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 局 U+5C40, non-cognate, evidence accepted, IRG 59."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20862
1.0
Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20862
b) PUA Code of TTFE195
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)44.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)5
e) First Stroke (Primary)1
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count8
i) IDS⿸尸可
j) Similar/ Variants U+5C40
k1) References to evidence documents《汉语方言大词典》（中华书局, 1999年） p. 3743
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20862-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A

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