Date | Description |
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IRG #60 2023-03-21 (Tue) 1:35 am +0800 Recorded by Henry CHAN | Evidence accepted (automatically processed by ORT manager) |
Version | Description |
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5.0 | For 02582, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, IRG 60." |
Source Reference | Glyph |
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GDM-00374 | 1.0 |
group | China (GDM - Place Name Characters) |
a) Source reference | GDM-00374 |
b) PUA Code of TTF | E2F4 |
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary) | 102.0 |
d) Stroke Count(Primary) | 4 |
e) First Stroke(Primary) | 3 |
g) Total Stroke Count | 9 |
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence) | ⿹&P4-05;甲 |
j) Similar/ Variants | U+2A00B 𪀋 |
k) Ref. to Evidence doc | 中华人民共和国第二代居民身份证 云南省永胜县地名志 |
Review Comments
Kangxi Dictionary shows U+2A00B 𪀋 is the variant of 鴨, but “duck” is ꓯꓹ [ɛ³⁵] in Lisu language, so the submitted character is not related for the usage in KX.
▲ 汉仪字库: 《中文上万个“生僻字”,都能打出来吗? | 字体研究院》, https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1v84y1J7GY
▲ ꓪꓰꓲ-ꓫꓲ ꓡꓲ-ꓢꓴ ꓫꓵꓽ ꓚꓲꓸ ꓛꓬꓽ ꓙꓵꓽ ꓫꓯꓹ ꓤꓶꓽ ꓟꓲꓽ ꓚꓶꓹ ꓩꓴꓺ꓾ ꓬꓱꓽ-ꓧꓯꓺ-ꓚꓳ꓾ ꓩꓳꓺ-ꓬꓱꓹ-ꓛꓶꓽ꓾ 《ꓡꓲ-ꓢꓴ ꓫꓵꓽ ꓟꓻ ꓭꓼ ꓕꓳꓽ ꓶꓽ ꓝꓳꓹ ꓢꓳꓺ ꓓꓴ》꓾ 潞西: ᥟᥩᥒᥲ ᥟᥩᥐᥱ ᥘᥣᥭᥰ ᥟᥣ ᥛᥥᥝᥰ ᥖᥬᥲ ᥑᥨᥒᥰ, 2013.10, ISBN 978-7-80750-959-2/H·37, p. 84
The following shows the Lisu Zhushu form, Fraser form (ꓯꓹ) and IPA form (ɛ³⁵) of the word “duck”.
▲ ꓪꓰꓲ-ꓫꓲ ꓡꓲ-ꓢꓴ ꓫꓵꓽ ꓚꓲꓸ ꓛꓬꓽ ꓙꓵꓽ ꓫꓯꓹ ꓤꓶꓽ ꓟꓲꓽ ꓚꓶꓹ ꓩꓴꓺ꓾ ꓬꓱꓽ-ꓧꓯꓺ-ꓚꓳ꓾ ꓩꓳꓺ-ꓬꓱꓹ-ꓛꓶꓽ꓾ 《ꓡꓲ-ꓢꓴ ꓫꓵꓽ ꓟꓻ ꓭꓼ ꓕꓳꓽ ꓶꓽ ꓝꓳꓹ ꓢꓳꓺ ꓓꓴ》꓾ 潞西: ᥟᥩᥒᥲ ᥟᥩᥐᥱ ᥘᥣᥭᥰ ᥟᥣ ᥛᥥᥝᥰ ᥖᥬᥲ ᥑᥨᥒᥰ, 2013.10, ISBN 978-7-80750-959-2/H·37, p. 82
We have known this character is different from 鸭 for the Lisu uses, that means it is OK to encode, but it is too early to confirm the rationale now, because we still don’t know how the Lisu people read the Han character and the phonology and readings of the corresponding Chinese Southwestern Mandarin-dialect of the nearest place. If we can’t confirm these when we encode this character in UCS and Unicode, I suggest not include the kMandarin property value in Unihan database.
▲ China NB. Proposal to Encode the Lisu Monosyllabic Script. WG2 N5047 = L2/19-208: pdf page 56.
▲ 木玉璋. 傈僳族音节文字字典. 知识版权出版社, 2006: page 193.
The three Lisu Zhushu characters recording “bird” /niɛ˧˥/ are different.
This character has been added to Service platform for National Professional and technician qualification test (全国专业技术人员资格考试报名服务平台) in China, which the PUA code is U+E022.