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169.1 门
SC=8, FS=3, TS=11

GCW-00239
No change, IRG 65.
Similar To: Trad Variant䦦 (U+49A6)
U+49A6U+49A6
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The glyph does not match the evidence.
HKSAR
Hong Kong SAR
2024-09-17 06:59:59 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The evidence shows the Zhuang reading is gyəmƽ (aka gyaemq) and the meaning is 紫色 (purple).


▲ 《壮汉英词典》, p. 569

The component 门 is often used to the meanings of colours, that means the semantic element is 门 (related to colour) and the phonetic element is 金 (currently 老借 is gim, but I trust gyaem is more ancient form). Therefore, there is no need to change anything.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2025-04-02 02:30:34 UTC
Data for Unihan
TRAD_VARIANT
WS2024 v2.0
U+49A6 䦦
U+49A6
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2025-04-02 02:31:57 UTC
Evidence
MISIDENTIFIED_GLYPH
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Agree with comment #3325. The evidence 1 has 今 in the middle. Care needs to be taken when reading handwritten characters. The only question here is which of two already encoded Zhuang characters this is a poorly written form of.

There is U+2CB9E
, page 220 of 《古壮字字典》 , the only difference in reading from gyaemq being that of tone ~x (4th tone) versus ~q (5th tone). The traditional form would be ⿵門今 .

As well there is U+3024D
which is found on page 168 of 《古壮字字典》 .
John Knightley
Individual
2025-04-02 07:38:02 UTC
Evidence
MISIDENTIFIED_GLYPH
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The fact that SJT-11239 aka 八辅 has U+2CB9E 𬮞 at 2390 strongly suggests that it is the normal rendering of evidence 1

John Knightley
Individual
2025-04-02 08:53:33 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The glyph is very reasonable and the glyph is not misidentified.
⿱丶冂 is a variant of 门

The glyph in the index:

More cases in the book:
闼,U+95FC

𮤬,U+2E92C

𮤸,U+2E938
Xieyang WANG
China
2025-04-21 14:22:04 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Thank you the index is clearly shows the inner component as 金. This additional evidence is much clearer than evidence 1 and so I remove my earlier objection.
John Knightley
Individual
2025-04-21 22:13:41 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
If 金 is phonetic then one possible explanation is that 'gyaem' comes from the Cantonese pronunciation of 金 which would be highly unusual in the Wuming are and perhaps explains the comment that the character is seldom seen. A borrowed pronunciation coming from Cantonese would not make it older but rather of different origin.
John Knightley
Individual
2025-04-21 22:27:47 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
To John's comment #10593:
Yes, very likely.
I have scanned the book again recently and the quality is better. Thank you for bringing the issue out.
Xieyang WANG
China
2025-04-29 02:25:08 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #65
2025-10-15 (Wed)
9:15 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 03982, add Discussion Record "No change, IRG 65."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GCW-00239
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceGCW-00239
CodepointE10F
Radical169'.8
Stroke Count8
First Stroke3
Total Stroke11
IDS⿵门金
VariantsTrad Variant䦦
PronunciationN/A
Total No. of Evidences1
NotesN/A
Secondary RadicalN/A
Secondary Stroke CountN/A
Secondary First StrokeN/A