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04377
173.0 雨
SC=23, FS=3 TS=31

UK-20743
No glyph change, IRG 62.
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It seems that the evidence does not satisfy IRG PnP 2.1.1.c, so it should be rejected.
IRG PnP 2.1.1.c says: characters must be used in script as characters in text. Logos and images used separately from running text are not acceptable.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-22 15:42:38 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
Does the bottom-right component not look like 夂 rather than 又?
WANG Yifan
SAT
2022-07-12 06:29:01 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
NORMALIZATION
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Suggest to normalize the bottom component to 玃 with 又 on bottom right.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-07-12 08:23:39 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Should be postponed according to experts' opinion in IRGN2579.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-17 14:45:39 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE (Response)
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
No reason to postpone as the evidence is clear, and the character is required for digitization of the source text.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-02-20 18:11:51 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
天目運 roughly means that flash your 天眼's gaze in the air, flow and draw according to the shape of the symbols.
According to the provided evidences, ⿱雨玃 is a non-ideograph sign created for talismans drawn by a special eye. It can only be used as parts of talismans. Thus, ⿱雨玃 should not be encoded as a CJKUI.
According to page 17 of the same book(廣成儀制・鐵鏆施食集), ⿱雨玃 is used with following signs:

According to our database, ⿱雨玃 can be used as a God's name. However, we found only one related case. Because the secret names of Daoist Gods can be created freely, we consider it a nonce ideograph which is still not qualified for encoding.
If the submitter can provide more text use cases, then it is OK to encode it.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-13 07:41:45 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
青玄祭煉鐵罐施食全集 藏外道书
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 07:22:11 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-20 (Wed)
11:11 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no glyph change.
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
11:03 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters (automatically processed by IRG ORT Manager)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04377, add Discussion Record "Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57."
7.0
For 04377, add Discussion Record "No glyph change, IRG 62."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20743
1.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20743
b) PUA Code of TTFE13B
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)173.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)23
e) First Stroke (Primary)3
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count31
i) IDS⿱雨玃
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k1) References to evidence documents《廣成儀制・鐵鏆施食集》(清宣統二年刊本) folio 16
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20740-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A