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173.0 雨
𠃍
SC=11, FS=4 TS=19

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UK-20766
SC=11, TS=19, IDS=⿱雨⿰言⿵冂⿱ 𠃍一, glyph updated, 2023-06.
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It seems that the evidence does not satisfy IRG PnP 2.1.1.c, so it should be rejected.
IRG PnP 2.1.1.c says: characters must be used in script as characters in text. Logos and images used separately from running text are not acceptable.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-22 15:50:51 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-01-19 12:13:39 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
According to the new evidence (which shows this character in several places), the character should be ⿰言⿵冂?, and as the bottom part is identical to UK-20679, this would seem to be the correct glyph form. Therefore suggest changing the glyph to match the new evidence.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-01-19 12:18:35 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Should be postponed according to experts' opinion in IRGN2579.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-17 14:37:58 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE (Response)
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
No reason to postpone as the evidence is clear, and the character is required for digitization of the source text.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-02-20 18:27:27 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
The context says 黑靴樣内加 xxxx( add following things to the black boots)
The black boots can be seen in the whole page. It will be weird to encode signs used in these pair of boots.

Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-06 16:20:45 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
The glyph is also unstable in the two evidences:


Even the incantations are printed freely with 口 or without 口

Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-13 04:23:11 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
About the word 天目運, I used to be wrong.
According to 《道教法术》(刘仲宇2002, page164): “目运,亦称目书。目运,即以眼光闪动于空中,依符形流动书绘。”
It roughly means that flash your 天眼's gaze in the air, flow and draw according to the shape of the symbols.
The 天目讳 are used only when you use 天眼 to draw talismans in the air in a ceremony of communicating with Gods. They are used only as parts of talismans.
In Evidence 1, ⿱雨⿰言⿵冂⿱𠃍一 is used in a talisman that should be written with 天眼.
In the additional evidence, ⿱雨⿰言⿵冂⿱𠃍一 is clearly used in a pair of boots in a talisman.

There is no need to encode some sign created for drawn with eye or drawn in the black boots of talismans.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-13 06:00:44 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
This should be related to 玉皇讳.

Current glyph seems to be the taboo character who lacks one stroke. We suggets the glyph should be changed to:
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 06:26:07 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
11:09 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters (automatically processed by IRG ORT Manager)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04330, add Discussion Record "Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57."
5.0
For 04330, change Stroke Count to 11
5.0
For 04330, change Total Stroke Count to 19
5.0
For 04330, change IDS to ⿱雨⿰言⿵冂⿱ 𠃍一
5.0
For 04330, add Discussion Record "SC=11, TS=19, IDS=⿱雨⿰言⿵冂⿱ 𠃍一, glyph updated, 2023-06."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20766
1.0
🢂
5.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20766
b) PUA Code of TTFE153
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)173.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)10
e) First Stroke (Primary)4
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count18
i) IDS⿱雨⿰𧥛⿵𠔼𠃌
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k1) References to evidence documents《廣成儀制・鐵鏆施食集》(清宣統二年刊本) folio 35
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20766-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A