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04566
194.0 鬼
SC=10, FS=1 TS=20

UK-20699
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57.
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It seems that the evidence does not satisfy IRG PnP 2.1.1.c, so it should be rejected.
IRG PnP 2.1.1.c says: characters must be used in script as characters in text. Logos and images used separately from running text are not acceptable.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-23 02:04:58 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Unresolved ]
Should be postponed according to experts' opinion in IRGN2579.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-10-17 14:32:27 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE (Response)
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
No reason to postpone as the evidence is clear, and the character is required for digitization of the source text.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-02-20 17:20:45 UTC
Evidence
UNCLEAR_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
Potentially be nonce.
The evidence UK provided is from a book named "梵音斗科". ⿺鬼索 is only found in this book, which is written and published by Mr. Lou Jinyuan(娄近垣) in the Qing Dynasty.
Considering that:
• ⿺鬼索 is seen only in a song for a special ceremony to communicate with a God. Meanwhile, the ceremony was recorded only in the book "梵音斗科". The book has not been reorganized and published again since its initial publication, and the ideographs have not been quoted by anyone.
• Mr. Lou Jinyuan(娄近垣) should be famous at least among the Daoists in the Qing Dynasty. But we don't know if he is still well-known nowadays. The submitter didn't provide any related illustrations.
• The submitter didn't explain the meanings and rationale of ⿺鬼索. For self-published books, ideographs used in them can be created very freely.
So:

After analysis, we can find that there are one or two factors that argue for encoding, but two or three factors that argue against encoding. Since it is not required for use in government databases, I think it is reasonable to ask for further investigation.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-13 06:24:47 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
正统道藏·法海遗珠·卷八
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 07:06:42 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v7.0
[ New ]
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2024-09-15 07:07:16 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
11:00 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Kept pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters (automatically processed by IRG ORT Manager)
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
11:01 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters (automatically processed by IRG ORT Manager)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04566, add Discussion Record "Kept in Main Set, pending further discussion of the encoding model for Taoist characters, IRG 57."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20699
1.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20699
b) PUA Code of TTFE0E1
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)194.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)10
e) First Stroke (Primary)1
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count20
i) IDS⿺鬼索
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k1) References to evidence documents《梵音斗科》(清雍正初刊本)卷上 folio 57
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20698-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A