Character Info
04608
 GKJ-00268 |
No change, IRG 59.
R(2)=181.0 (頁), SC(2)=11, FS(2)=3, IRG 58.
R(2)=181.0 (頁), SC(2)=11, FS(2)=3, IRG 58.
Secondary Radical =181.0, SC(2)=11, FS(2)=3
Attributes:
Meeting Minutes
| Date | Description |
|---|---|
| IRG #59 2022-10-20 (Thu) 12:00 pm +0800 Recorded by CHEN Zhuang | no change. |
| IRG #58 2022-03-17 (Thu) 9:23 am +0800 Recorded by CHEN Zhuang | second radical as 181 頁, and the second SC=11, the second FS=3. |
Attribute Changes
| Version | Description |
|---|---|
| 3.0 | For 04608, change Radical (Secondary) to 181.0 (頁) |
| 3.0 | For 04608, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 11 |
| 3.0 | For 04608, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 3 |
| 3.0 | For 04608, add Discussion Record "R(2)=181.0 (頁), SC(2)=11, FS(2)=3, IRG 58." |
| 4.0 | For 04608, add Discussion Record "No change, IRG 59." |
Glyph Changes
| Source Reference | Glyph |
|---|---|
| GKJ-00268 | 1.0 |
Raw Info
| group | China (GKJ - Science and Technology Characters) |
| a) Source reference | GKJ-00268 |
| b) PUA Code of TTF | E037 |
| c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary) | 195.0 |
| d) Stroke Count(Primary) | 9 |
| e) First Stroke(Primary) | 1 |
| g) Total Stroke Count | 20 |
| i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence) | ⿰魚頁 |
| j) Similar/ Variants | N/A |
| k) Ref. to Evidence doc | 增補文成字彙 辨字摘要 新訂中州全韻 十三經注疏 知不足齋叢書一百九十六種 宋四名家詩選 晚學齋集 |
Review Comments
4 evidences have (⿰魚頁)顇, error form of 顦顇?
The third piece of evidence shows it’s the definition of 鮉. Compared with different ancient dictionaries, it’s easy to know it’s also the variant of 鯛, so it’s OK to keep the current RS as the first RS.
As Mr. Huang mentioned in #934, it’s the variant of 顦 based on the 1st, 6th, 7th and 8th pieces of evidence. It’s better to add the second RS.
The fourth piece of evidence shows it’s the 反切上字 of 嶼. We can get 徐吕切 (唐韻), 象吕切 (集韻 etc.), 私吕切 (正字通) and 辭旅反 (篆隸萬象名義) as the fanqie of 嶼. The middle Chinese initials of 徐, 象 and 辭 are 邪, the one of 私 is 心. As we know, the current Putonghua pronunciation of 嶼/屿 (yǔ) does not match the middle Chinese. In the old Mandarin pronunciation, 嶼/屿 reads as xù, and the Cantonese pronunciation is zeoi6, which both match. 徐吕切, 象吕切, 辭旅反 all mean the same reading, 私吕切 means the other reading. As we know, 私吕切 (aka 胥上聲) is not a good fanqie for this character. The initial of 顦 is 從, the ones of 鯛 and 鮉 are 端, which do not match. It’s better to trust it is a character which the initial is 邪 and not the variant of 顦, 鯛, 鮉, 徐, 象, 辭, 私 in this evidence.
The second evidence is not complete, but it’s easy to get the sentence is cited from 爾雅, and it is the variant of 鮪. So, it is OK to keep the current RS in this case.
The fifth evidence does not match the glyph and not complete, please ignore it.
Also, the source names for the remaining evidences should be given.