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R=126.0 而, SC=5, FS=1
R2=56.0 弋, SC2=8, FS=1
IDS=, TS=11

VN-F1CFE
Add R=126.0 (而), SC=5, FS=1, IRG 59.
Secondary Radical =56.0, SC(2)=8, FS(2)=1
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
Change Radical to 126.0 (而), SC=5, FS=1
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-06-20 13:15:52
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
126.0 (而) would be a natural way to look this up and should be an alternate radical. However, the meaning of this character is "two" and 而 is phonetic, so based on IRG rules, the best radical might be 7.0 (二), SC=9, FS=1
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2022-06-25 18:44:33
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
I'm not sure what IRG rules you are referring to. However, IRG PnP §2.2.1 d. (5) c) states:

"If the technically correct (aka semantic) radical for an ideograph hampers its discoverability, or is region-dependent, the primary radical shall be assigned as though made by an ideograph expert who is neither a specialist in the history of the Han script nor familiar with ideograph etymology. The technically correct radical can be assigned as a second radical. Both are shown in the code charts, though the primary one serves as the basis for ordering within a CJK Unified Ideographs block."

Therefore, in this case the primary radical should be R126 而.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-07-02 13:49:53

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #59
2022-10-20 (Thu)
11:01 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
add first Radical to 126.0 (而), SC=5, FS=1

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 01278, add Discussion Record "Add R=126.0 (而), SC=5, FS=1, IRG 59."
4.0
For 01278, change Radical to 126.0 (而)
4.0
For 01278, change Stroke Count to 5
4.0
For 01278, change First Stroke to 1
4.0
For 01278, change Radical (Secondary) to 56.0 (弋)
4.0
For 01278, change Stroke Count (Secondary) to 8
4.0
For 01278, change First Stroke (Secondary) to 1

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
VN-F1CFE
1.0

Raw Info
groupV
SourceVN-F1CFE
CodeF1CFE
Rad56
Strk8
FS1
TS11
IDS⿰而弍
Var.N/A
EvidenceVN-F1CFE.jpg
Readingnhì
NoteN/A
Prev. WSN/A
Prev. WS No.N/A