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76.0 欠
SC=10, FS=1 TS=14

TD-4A24
IRGN2632WS2021v6.0Unified&Withdrawn
Unified to 𬅭 U+2C16D, extend UCV rule #266 with ⿳士冖示, IRG 60.
Similar To: 𣣙 (U+238D9)
U+2C16DU+2C16D
U+238D9U+238D9
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-07-01 15:11:58 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 09:53:32 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
U+238D9
𣣙 (U+238D9)
Both have the same reading, kuǎn; Perhaps extend, UCV i., Differences of extra or reduced stroke or dot, to 木 and 禾 where they are part of larger component, like ⿳士冖木 and ⿳士冖禾
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-02-01 17:09:45 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
U+2C16D
Consider unify to 𬅭 (U+2C16D).

⿰𡉉欠 may not be regarded as an isolated abstract component. Considering all the characters with similar structure:

𬅭 ~ 款
⿰⿱〾𡉉方欠 (13-4E33) (kuǎn)
⿰⿱〾𡉉禾欠 (11-6151) (kuǎn)

They are all derived from 款. First a 冖 is added from the original glyph to form 𬅭, then the lower-left part 示 is changed to be 禾 to form [11-6151], then the 一 is deleted to form this [TD-4A24], then the 丿 is deleted to form 𣣙 (only one character with this ⿰⿳十冖A欠 structure).
Kushim JIANG
Individual
2023-03-02 10:47:04 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
If a new UCV rule is added, TCA agree.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-03-16 08:56:11 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-22 (Wed)
11:33 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Unified to 𬅭 U+2C16D, add ucv ⿳士冖示 and ⿳士冖禾.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.0
For 01902, change Status to Unified
5.0
For 01902, add Discussion Record "Unified to 𬅭 U+2C16D, extend UCV rule #266 with ⿳士冖示, IRG 60."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TD-4A24
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTD-4A24
b) PUA Code of TTFE396
c) KangXi Radical Code76.0
e) Stroke Count10
f) First Stroke1
g) Total stroke count14
i) IDS〾⿰𥞤欠
j) Similar/ VariantsU+238D9
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_02
k1) Page No.Page12-13, no.651
l) Optional infokuǎn