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195.0 魚
SC=14, FS=4 TS=25

GKJ-00273
Not unified to 𩼥 U+29F25, R=195.0 (魚), SC=14, FS=4, IRG 57.
U+29F25U+29F25
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Data for Unihan
SEMANTIC_VARIANT
WS2021 v1.0
U+29F25


Similar to 𩼥 (U+29F25), as it is also shown on the evidence.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2021-05-22 21:02:30 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_RADICAL
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Add the second radical as 195.0 because of the semantics
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-05-23 15:49:18 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
SC=14 with the second radical as 195.0.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-05-23 15:49:54 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_FS
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
FS=4 with the second radical as 195.0.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-05-23 15:50:18 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+29F25
Possibly unifiable to 𩼥 (U+29F25).

This character seems to be a corrupted form of 𩼥 (U+29F25) where the top grass radical has been moved to the left and joined with 大 to become a 关 structure, with the bottom part added an additional dot as a generalization to another 关.

The main sources quoted for these characters are known to contain vulgar forms of characters. It may be more appropriate to encode them as unified variants of existing characters instead of as new characters.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2021-05-24 02:21:38 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The structure and components of them are quite different with each other. The unification rules should be limited to specific areas, exactly for the glyphs with minor stroke differences. Excessively expanding the scope of application of the rules may seriously negate the value of our work, and hinder the development of philology. (Most of the unencoded Han characters from China, TCA, Korea and SAT are variants, so do the ones of Zhuang and Chu Nom.)
TAO Yang
China
2021-05-25 03:10:49 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
Early evidences reveal how 𩼥 transitioned into ⿰⿱关关⿹勹魚:

The character is quoted from 陰祐《餘文》.


新修絫音引证群籍玉篇(金刊本)卷24 folio 35b, 魚部/14畫


泰和五音新改並類聚四聲篇(金刊元修本)卷3 folio 11b,魚部/14畫, the bottom 关 component emerged.


成化丁亥重刊改併五音類聚四聲篇(明成化刊本)卷3 folio 17a, the horizontal stroke of 大 was shorten and merged with the upper grass 艹.


正德乙亥重刊改併五音類聚四聲篇(明正德刊本)
卷3 folio 17a. ⿰⿱关关⿹勹魚 became stable. Then the shape is copied by other later dictionaries.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-02-23 22:26:17 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #57
2021-09-14 (Tue)
9:08 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 𩼥 U+29F25, radical to be changed to fish魚.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 00263, change Radical to 195.0 (魚)
2.0
For 00263, change Stroke Count to 14
2.0
For 00263, change First Stroke to 4
2.0
For 00263, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𩼥 U+29F25, R=195.0 (魚), SC=14, FS=4, IRG 57."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GKJ-00273
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GKJ - Science and Technology Characters)
a) Source referenceGKJ-00273
b) PUA Code of TTFE03C
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)12.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)23
e) First Stroke(Primary)1
g) Total Stroke Count25
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰⿱关关⿹勹魚
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc重校經史海篇直音 精刻海若湯先生校訂音釋五侯鯖字海 大明正德乙亥重刊改併五音類聚四聲篇 合併字學篇韻便覽