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61.0 心
SC=10, FS=3, TS=14

VN-F1FB8
Not unified to 𫺱 U+2BEB1, IRG 64.
Similar To: 𢥷 (U+22977)
U+2BEB1U+2BEB1
U+22977U+22977
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+2BEB1
Unify to 𫺱 (U+2BEB1).
Suggest to add ⿱匕⿺㇉一 and 𪟽 as UCV Lv.1 due to the cognition (both the simplified form of 疑, also see the small character in the parenthesis next to the character entry). It seems that the former one is preferred by the Jing nationality (京族) in China and the latter one is preferred by people in Vietnam. I do not think we need to encode both shapes separately.
SHEN Tianheng (CheonHyeong Sim)
Individual
2024-09-01 19:53:35 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The shapes are too different to recognize as identical. If we are going to arbitrarily equate simplified components based on interchangeability, then we should apply that across the board, including 馬/马, 金/钅, etc.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2024-09-30 17:33:37 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+99AC
U+91D1
The two structures have a strict correspondence, and we could treat them as only glyph variants. That is a very different situation from 馬/马, 金/钅, etc. See the colors below.
SHEN Tianheng (CheonHyeong Sim)
Individual
2024-10-07 09:57:13 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The point is not that we can derive correspondences, we can similarly derive correspondences from 馬 to 马, 鳥 to 鸟, etc. But, if we are going to say that because we can derive correspondences between glyphs that on the surface look quite different, then we should start using stronger unification that includes traditional and simplified. I don't think people want that, so the same treatment should be applied to simplified forms in languages other than Chinese used in the PRC.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2024-10-14 18:18:23 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The question is, how to define “quite different”? They are both the simplified forms of the same character, not the simplified-traditional relationship. What is more, the correspondence works between strokes but not components; however, 馬 obviously has a lot more strokes than 马, you cannot simply establish such a correspondence.

For example, do you think that
04658
鼠 208.9.1
UTC-03486
TS 19 · IDS 𣆨𮧓
and
04657
鼠 208.9.1
UTC-03485
TS 22 · IDS
look “quite different”?
SHEN Tianheng (CheonHyeong Sim)
Individual
2024-10-17 16:28:47 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #65
2025-10-14 (Tue)
3:03 pm +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change.
IRG #64
2025-03-19 (Wed)
10:58 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
not unified to 𫺱 (U+2BEB1).

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
3.0
For 01489, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𫺱 U+2BEB1, IRG 64."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
VN-F1FB8
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceVN-F1FB8
CodepointF1FB8
Radical61
Stroke Count10
First Stroke3
Total Stroke14
IDS⿰息⿱匕⿺㇉一
VariantsU+22977
Pronunciationnghỉ [JY: ŋi3]
Total No. of Evidences1
NotesN/A
Radical 2N/A
Stroke Count 2N/A
First Stroke 2N/A