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SC=31, FS=4, TS=35

UTC-03341
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Kushim JIANG
China
2024-08-20 10:13:22 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The second 纟 should be the same as the first 纟, with a slanting up final stroke rather than a horizontal stroke.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-08-20 12:36:15 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Modify glyph to have a horizontal stroke at the very top, not a dot, as shown in all evidences.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-08-20 12:38:06 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Support unification. The difference between the two forms of this character is the same as the difference between the regional forms of e.g. U+6220 戠 and U+6222 戢 (G forms extend the horizontal stroke of the left component into the 戈, but T forms have separate components). We should add a UCV for this variation.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-08-20 12:54:43 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Evidences 4-9 appear to show ⿰月⿹⿶戈一⿳⿲纟言纟⿲长马长心 with a full 言 in the top middle. It is unclear what Evidence 1-3 intend for the top middle component, but it looks more like ⿱丷口 than ⿱二口.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-08-20 13:01:08 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The unification has been discussed in IRG meeting before and the decision was that it should be encoded seperately.
IRGN2622 IRG61MiscEditorialReport, item 8:
Hongmen character unification (IRGN2634 Wang Xieyang)
The editors considered these CJK unified characters and thus they could be submitted to IRG for future extension.

To respect the procedure, this should be brought out al least before submission. If not, they should be treated as UNIFIED ideographs based on my comments in IRGN2634. The reasons why it should be seperately encoded was stated clearly and agreed by IRG.
Xieyang WANG
China
2024-08-20 13:25:40 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It is good to keep the current glyph. The stroke at the very top should be normalized to dot according to all other variants. Moreover, the thing between the two 纟 should absolutely be 言.
If the second 纟 is with a slanting up final stroke, the space in the lower right corner will become too large, causing the glyph to look less beautiful than it is now.
Xieyang WANG
China
2024-09-27 11:58:49 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
If the IRG decides to unify, a new UCV should be added per Comment #306.
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2024-10-16 19:19:50 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Xieyang WANG
China
2024-10-17 14:40:17 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
If UTC-03341 and UTC-03343 are decided to be unified, suggest to keep UTC-03341 and postpone UTC-03343. Using IVD is not proper for this case.
Xieyang WANG
China
2024-10-26 04:21:17 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UTC-03341
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceUTC-03341
CodepointF50C
Radical74
Stroke Count31
First Stroke4
Total Stroke35
IDS⿰月⿹⿶戈丶⿳⿲纟⿱二口纟⿲长马长心
VariantsN/A
PronunciationN/A
Total No. of Evidences8
NotesN/A