Per Comment #13176 and document IRG N2878R2, GCW-00019 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB69. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13171 and document IRG N2878R2, GCW-00243 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FC0E, along with T- and H-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13182 and document IRG N2878R2, GCW-00244 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FC0F, along with T- and H-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13178 and document IRG N2878R2, G5-3557 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB79, along with a T-source version. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13174 and document IRG N2878R2, GZHSJ-0024 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB13, along with a T-source version. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13172 and document IRG N2878R2, KC-10175 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FABF, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13179 and document IRG N2878R2, SAT-10292 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FBC9, along with G- and T-source versions. This comment is being made so that all such ideographs in this working set are identified.
Per Comment #13175 and document IRG N2878R2, UK-30618 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB18, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per document IRG N2878R2, UTC-00792 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FC04, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13181 and document IRG N2878R2, UTC-03248 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FBED, along with G-, T-, and H-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13173 and document IRG N2878R2, VN-F1F1F is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FADC, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Unification
To reply to #13583, some of the CJK components in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block can also be used as stand-alone ideographs, so I think that it is okay to keep this ideograph in that proposed block.
Also, if we want to target the two CJK components blocks proposed in document IRG N2878R2 for Unicode Version 19.0, the repertoires need to be stable.
About Comment #13142, document IRG N2862R includes the sub-component as 6Db with 6 strokes, so by adding the two-stroke component on top, one would reason that 8 would be the more consistent value.
The radical of its traditional form, U+2A0A7, is 196, which serves as a precedent for using 196.1 for this ideograph. For the URO examples in Comment #11967, the X component is itself a radical, so it makes sense to use it. However, selecting the radical of 宛 for this ideograph is not very intuitive. For such cases, I recommend using a secondary radical, and for this ideograph, I strongly prefer keeping 196.1 as the primary one.
To respond to Comments #10021 and #10022, which I just saw because this is the first time for me to review this portion of the working set, we are not building a formal dictionary, but rather establishing incremental repertoires of Han ideographs that now include over 100,000 such characters. Given that Han ideographs are found in various regions, and that many are unique to a given region, when searching for Han ideograph, it is often unclear as to which component serves which function. This is why I would advocate that the most intuitive radical, regardless of whether it serves as the semantic component or not, should be the primary one. It is also important to add a secondary radical when doing so would aid in discoverability. Perhaps the best ways to search for an ideograph is by using the Radical-Stroke Index that the Unicode Consortium includes with each version of the Unicode Standard, as an interactive web page, as a PDF file that is for visual searching (RSIndex.pdf), and now as a plain-text data file that can be used to programmatically search (RSIndex.txt).
Similar to Comment #11685, Chiang Chi-Ying (江祈瑩) observed that there is another similarity in the IVD, specifically for U+3DF1 in the Moji_Joho IVD collection, which shares the same IVSes and glyphic subset in the now-deprecated Hanyo-Denshi IVD collection for this particular ideograph:
Note that unifications found in the IVD are not binding, but can be considered, along with other evidence.
The evidence in Comment #12948 suggests that its reading is つき (tsuki), but also that it is likely cognate with U+6896 梖. Given that this ideograph is in CNS 11643 per Comment #13878, TCA's feedback would be helpful.
Is the top component 𠫓 (U+20AD3) or 云 (U+4E91)? The former, I think, from a semantic point of view. If so, shouldn't the top component be drawn like that of the J-source representative glyph of U+342C 㐬?
Per TCA conventions, the 11-stroke 黒 component might be the 12-stroke 黑 component. See 04128 and 04129 in this working set for how the UK applied normalization to their representative glyphs and use 黑, while all of the evidence showed 黒.
I see two different component structures in the two evidence images, neither of which match the component structure of the UK-source representative glyph.
While not exact, Vietnamese Normalization Rule 3-4 in document IRG N2673R suggests that the upper-right component of the representative glyph (𠂊) should be changed to match the evidence (𫜵). If so, then SC = 16 and TS = 20.
Adding the U-source (UTC-03118) and glyph should be handled as a horizontal extension by the UTC after this working set has been standardized as a new CJK Unified Ideographs extension block.
IRG Working Set 2024v4.0
Source: Ken LUNDE
Date: Generated on 2026-03-07
Unification
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Per Comment #13176 and document IRG N2878R2, GCW-00019 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB69. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13171 and document IRG N2878R2, GCW-00243 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FC0E, along with T- and H-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13182 and document IRG N2878R2, GCW-00244 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FC0F, along with T- and H-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13178 and document IRG N2878R2, G5-3557 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB79, along with a T-source version. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13174 and document IRG N2878R2, GZHSJ-0024 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB13, along with a T-source version. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13172 and document IRG N2878R2, KC-10175 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FABF, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13179 and document IRG N2878R2, SAT-10292 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FBC9, along with G- and T-source versions. This comment is being made so that all such ideographs in this working set are identified.
The final Extension J code point for UK-20742 is U+33248.
The final Extension J code point for UK-20781 is U+33259.
Per Comment #13175 and document IRG N2878R2, UK-30618 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FB18, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per document IRG N2878R2, UTC-00792 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FC04, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13181 and document IRG N2878R2, UTC-03248 is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FBED, along with G-, T-, and H-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Per Comment #13173 and document IRG N2878R2, VN-F1F1F is included in the proposed CJK Unified Ideographs Components-B block at tentative code point U+2FADC, along with G- and T-source versions. So, this ideograph can be removed, either by withdrawing it or unifying with its tentative code point.
Also, if we want to target the two CJK components blocks proposed in document IRG N2878R2 for Unicode Version 19.0, the repertoires need to be stable.
Attributes
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Evidence
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Note that unifications found in the IVD are not binding, but can be considered, along with other evidence.
Glyph Design & Normalization
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Also, the IDS should also be changed: ⿱𠫓小
Editorial
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Data for Unihan
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Submitter Request
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