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123.0 羊
SC=12, FS=5, TS=18

VN-F2112
Evidence accepted, 2025-11.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
13
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2024-08-27 23:01:35 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_FS
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
3
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2024-08-27 23:01:46 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_TC
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
19
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2024-08-27 23:01:59 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_TC
WS2024 v1.0
[ Unresolved ]
18 is correct. According to the Attributes Predictor and Unihan data, 羊 is 6, not 7. Both give 10 strokes for 羞.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2024-08-28 18:27:37 UTC
Editorial
EDITORIAL_ISSUE
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Two pieces of evidence are the same.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2025-01-05 02:40:56 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Correct evidence from Takeuchi:

Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2025-01-05 10:57:45 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_TC
WS2024 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
Re Comment #1475


IRG N2862R #7Dd shows the value should be 7.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2025-12-04 08:28:14 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_TC
WS2024 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
The current Unihan data shows varying counts for the sheep radical in this position, although 7 does seem more common. It seems somewhat more intuitive to use 6, since the base character is 6 and the design of many glyphs use the base ⺶, not the ⿱𦍌丿. Either way, we need to update the unihan data and tools.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2025-12-04 19:58:11 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2024 v5.0
[ New ]
Per Rule #7Dd in IRG N2951: SC = 13; FS = 3; TS = 19
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2026-06-07 16:21:35 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2024 v5.0
[ New ]
#14526 illustrates why Rule #7Dd separating ⿱𦍌 and 丿is problematic. Intuitively, and following the 說文 and other analysis, many would consider ⿱𦍌丿 a variation of 羊, so the 丿 should count as part of the radical, not in the SC. #7Dd should only change the TC here.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2026-06-13 17:21:46 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #65
2025-11-12 (Wed)
1:43 pm +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
evidence accepted, 2025-11.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 03083, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, 2025-11."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
VN-F2112
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceVN-F2112
CodepointF2112
Radical123
Stroke Count12
First Stroke5
Total Stroke18
IDS⿰羞彼
VariantsN/A
Pronunciationbẽ
Total No. of Evidences1
NotesN/A
Radical 2N/A
Stroke Count 2N/A
First Stroke 2N/A