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46.0 山
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SC=11, FS=2, TS=14

SAT-09507
U+517EU+517E
U+5180U+5180
U+452CU+452C
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+32778
Unify to [WS2021-01170] ⿱山異 (Ext. J U+32778)
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-08-19 09:01:32 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Is it the 反切下字 (fanqie lower character) of 悶 (see Evidence 2)?

The kFanqie property value for 悶 is 莫困, and the evidences show the fanqie is 鄙~.
悶: 明母臻攝魂韻合口一等去聲 (被切字)
莫: 明母宕攝唐韻開口一等入聲 (反切上字)
困: 溪母臻攝魂韻合口一等去聲 (反切下字)
That means the fanqie matches the character 悶.

However, 鄙 is 幫母 and 三等, that means the reading of character 被切字 should be 齐齿呼. 幫母 and 明母 are not totally the same.
鄙: 幫母止攝脂韻開口三等上聲 (反切上字)

At least, the submitted character should be as below.
?母臻攝魂韻合口三等(?)去聲 (反切下字)
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2024-09-25 07:07:06 UTC
Other
OTHER
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Isn't it U+959F 閟 bì, not U+60B6 悶 mèn?
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-09-25 09:29:28 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Andrew’s comment (#4214) is reasonable.

The kFanqie property value for 閟 is 兵媚.
閟: 幫母止攝脂韻開口三等去聲 (被切字)
兵: 幫母梗攝庚韻開口三等平聲 (反切上字)
媚: 明母止攝脂韻開口三等去聲 (反切下字)

And the usage of 鄙 is the same as 兵 as the shengmu (声母), that means the submitted character should be as below.
?母止攝脂韻開口三等去聲

On the other hand, 異 is shown as below. (羊吏切)
以母止攝之韻開口三等去聲

脂韻 and 之韻 are very close in middle Chinese, so we can guess the submitted character should be as below.
以母止攝脂韻開口三等去聲 (Putonghua reading: yì)
That means the unification request on Comment #8 is also acceptable.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2024-10-01 13:40:55 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2024 v2.0
[ Unresolved ]
SC=10
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2025-01-15 00:38:35 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_TC
WS2024 v2.0
[ Unresolved ]
TS=13
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2025-01-15 00:38:49 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
SAT-09507
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceSAT-09507
CodepointF169
Radical46.0
Stroke Count11
First Stroke2
Total Stroke14
IDS⿱山𮲡
Variants兾冀䔬
Total No. of Evidences2
NotesSimilar and synonym: 兾/冀/ Similar but semantically different: 䔬/