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00367
24.0 十
SC=2, FS=3 TS=4

GDM-00344
Evidence accepted, glyph no change, IRG 58.
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Evidence apparently not 集韻考正. Where is it from?
WANG Yifan
SAT
2022-01-05 07:48:01 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
It seems made from 戴's left-top and left-bottom strokes. Should the last stroke look like 點 rather than 撇?
WANG Yifan
SAT
2022-01-05 07:53:11 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Agree to change the glyph from 撇 to 點.
KWAN Ching Kit
Individual
2022-03-09 01:44:50 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
I really don't think this is sufficient evidence for encoding. I would like to see evidence of actual use in printed text, demonstrating that there really is a need to encode this character. If IRG considers that local-use vulgar simplifications can be encoded on the basis of unverified second-hand evidence such as this, then there are hundreds and hundreds of Part 2 second stage simplified characters for which there is a stronger case for encoding.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-03-09 13:04:19 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The evidence posted is from
江西省公安厅一处 编纂:《江西方言土语汇集》第五册,1991年3月,P224
⿱十八 is a common character used widely in the Sourth of China.
Another evidence:
江苏省公安厅江苏方言总汇编写委员会:江苏方言总汇 上卷,北京:中国文联出版公司,1998年9月,P1860
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2022-03-14 02:00:29 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-01-27 15:34:15 UTC
Data for Unihan
UNIHAN_DATA
WS2021 v6.0
kMandarin dài
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2024-02-07 03:08:13 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
《金華方言詞典》 (曹志耘, 江蘇教育出版社, 1996), p. 117
LEUNG Justin Richard
Individual
2024-02-07 16:20:32 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
《中国语言资源保护工程汉语方言用字规范》 is largely derived from the dictionaries in the 《現代漢語方言大詞典》 series, including 《金華方言詞典》 cited in #14949. The glyph form in 《中国语言资源保护工程汉语方言用字规范》 is less reliable since it is digitization of previous work. Thus, I also suggest changing from 撇 to 點 for the last stroke.
LEUNG Justin Richard
Individual
2024-02-07 16:25:25 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Resolved ]
⿱十八 is discussed thoroughly in _Long Story of Short Forms_ by Roar Bökset (https://vitterhetsakademien.bokorder.se/en-us/article/4450/long-story-of-short-forms), under the 戴 entry.

First paragraph:
L F CHENG
Individual
2024-02-10 08:13:27 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #58
2022-03-18 (Fri)
10:21 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
addtional evidence accepted, glyph no change.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
3.0
For 00367, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, glyph no change, IRG 58."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GDM-00344
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GDM - Place Name Characters)
a) Source referenceGDM-00344
b) PUA Code of TTFE2D6
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)24.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)2
e) First Stroke(Primary)3
g) Total Stroke Count4
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿱十八
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc集韻考正