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32.0 土
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GDM-00287
Not unified to 𱷆 U+31DC6, IRG 60.
U+31DC6U+31DC6
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Please confirm the source name of Evidence 2. I know these places are under 阳城县.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-01-29 02:19:24 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
《陝西延綏鎮志》 6:39a:



Also present in various editions of 《陝西通志》
Andrew WEST
UK
2023-02-03 00:22:40 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
U+31DC6
黑文婷 argues that ⿰土窊 is a variant of 坬/窊[1]. The earliest known evidence of ⿰土窊 dates back to late Ming while the form 窊 can be found in Five Dynasties text. The form 坬 is commonly used in Qing text.

According to the evidences of 𱷆, 𱷆 is used in Jiangxi province, bordered by Guangdong province where ⿰土窊 is used according to Evidence 1. Based on this and the semantic relationship between ⿰土窊 and 坬, I think ⿰土窊 could be a variant of 𱷆. If 𱷆 is also pronounced as wa, then ⿰土窊 is potentially unifiable to 𱷆.

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[1] 黑文婷,党怀兴,黑维强.黄土高原地名中“坬”的音义及来源[J].语文研究,2022(02):58-65. (PDF is attached below)

Attached PDF file
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-02-06 00:14:47 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]

▲ 《湖南省长沙市地名录》, 长沙: 长沙市人民政府, 1986.3, 内部发行, p. 447

(This evidence is provided by my friend Yang Lu.)
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-02-06 13:59:59 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
In #11341, Huang Junliang said, “According to the evidences of 𱷆, 𱷆 is used in Jiangxi province, bordered by Guangdong province where ⿰土窊 is used according to Evidence 1.” I don’t think this is a reason to confirm this character is the same.

The submitted evidence shows this character used in 广东省罗定县屋地~, currently, this place is under 广东省云浮市罗定市榃滨镇, and this is a Chinese Yue-dialect speaking town, but it borders a big Chinese Hakka-dialect speaking town 泗纶镇. It is very hard for us to confirm if this geographical name is named after any Hakka word only by the materials.

U+31DC6 𱷆 is used in current 江西省九江市瑞昌市, and the submitted evidence of U+31DC6 𱷆 didn’t give the pronunciation or meaning. 瑞昌市 is a Chinese Hakka-dialect speaking area. My friend Yang Lu helps me check the places related to U+31DC6 𱷆 in other books. 《江西省瑞昌县地名志》 shows 𱷆里陈 is written as 凹内陈, 大𱷆陇 is written as 大凹垄.


▲ 《江西省瑞昌县地名志》, 九江: 江西省瑞昌县地名志办公室, 1984.12, p. 177


▲ 《江西省瑞昌县地名志》, 九江: 江西省瑞昌县地名志办公室, 1984.12, p. 200

If there is no additional evidence, it looks U+31DC6 𱷆 is related to 凹, 洼, 坬 and so on.

BTW, GDM-00287 is a very common character just only based on the submitted evidence and #11362. If GDM-00287 is unified with U+31DC6 𱷆, I strongly request China for consideration to do the horizontal extension as soon as possible.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-02-06 14:25:47 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
> My friend Yang Lu helps me check the places related to U+31DC6 𱷆 in other books. 《江西省瑞昌县地名志》 shows 𱷆里陈 is written as 凹内陈, 大𱷆陇 is written as 大凹垄.

If U+31DC6 𱷆 is also related to 凹, 洼, 坬, it will support that 𱷆 is a variant of ⿰土窊 as in 黑文婷's paper, 凹/洼/坬/窊/⿰土窊 are all related.

HUANG Junliang
Individual
2023-02-07 01:14:30 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
An old classmate of mine who was born in Luoding just helped me confirm the village 屋地~ is a Chinese Yue-dialect speaking village.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-02-07 02:49:06 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
This character is used in hundreds of placenames in Shanxi(山西),Shannxi(陕西),Guangdong(广东) Province. Please see the second evidence of this character ,it's just one page of the book 《山西省行政区划与自然村标准地名手册·雁北地区》but it contains 6 ⿰土窊. Considering all of them are written as ⿰土窊 and ⿰土窊 and U+3EDC6 are usually considered different characters by normal people, it is really bad to unify ⿰土窊 to 𾷆 (U+3EDC6).
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2023-03-15 03:07:34 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-22 (Wed)
8:54 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 𱷆 U+31DC6

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.0
For 00865, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𱷆 U+31DC6, IRG 60."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GDM-00287
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GDM - Place Name Characters)
a) Source referenceGDM-00287
b) PUA Code of TTFE29D
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)32.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)10
e) First Stroke(Primary)4
g) Total Stroke Count13
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰土窊
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc中国地名通名集解《山西省行政区划与自然村标准地名手册·雁北地区》P85,86,94,95,99,100,101,103,107,109,110,111,112,113…… 八辅 中國地方志總目提要(上冊 中冊 下冊) 地名大词典·一