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SC=12, FS=3 TS=16

TB-4B46
SC=12, TS=16, 2023-04.
No change, IRG 57.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]

汉字海
TAO Yang
China
2021-05-25 08:31:56 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The evidence provided by Tao Yang does not support the pronunciation provided by TCA. Are there any other sources besides 汉字海? As 汉字海 seems be unreliable sometimes.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2021-09-16 06:40:45 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-06-21 02:31:56 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 09:20:47 UTC
Data for Unihan
UNIHAN_DATA
WS2021 v4.0
kMandarin chéng
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-01-29 21:11:58 UTC
Modified
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
Should the last stroke of 生 be 挑 instead of 橫?
Henry CHAN
Individual
2023-02-04 17:40:17 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_SC
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
SC=12, TC=16
#17, IRGN2221
HKSAR
Hong Kong
2023-02-14 08:09:03 UTC
Glyph Design & Normalization
GLYPH_DESIGN
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
TCA will pass your suggestion to MOE/ MOI.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-03-17 04:01:55 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-20 (Wed)
10:29 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
possible beautification of left component.
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
10:00 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
keep.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 01695, add Discussion Record "No change, IRG 57."
5.0
For 01695, add Discussion Record "SC=12, TS=16, 2023-04."
5.0
For 01695, change Stroke Count to 12
5.0
For 01695, change Total Stroke Count to 16

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TB-4B46
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTB-4B46
b) PUA Code of TTFE0F4
c) KangXi Radical Code72.0
e) Stroke Count11
f) First Stroke3
g) Total stroke count15
i) IDS⿰星成
j) Similar/ VariantsNo
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_02
k1) Page No.Page18, no.808
l) Optional infochéng