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UK-20398
IRGN2678WS2021v7.0Unified&Withdrawn
Unified to 𪷂 U+2ADC2, IRG 60.
Postponed for further investigation, IRG 57.
Similar To: 慕 (U+6155)
U+2ADC2U+2ADC2
U+6155U+6155
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
It is a wrong glyph of 慕, we should reject it on this evidence. This shows the importance of checking the context and other vertions, and not just relying on the glyph.
What's more, this book seems to have many error, we should consider to reject all evidence from this book.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-06-09 17:26:30 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Any update?
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-07-01 18:33:02 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It appears to be a variant of 慕. It remains postponed, pending additional evidence that ⿱莫氺 is not an idiosyncratic form used only in this one source.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-07-04 09:50:29 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
This is not a "wrong" glyph, but a deliberate variant of 慕 as shown by the MOE variants dictionary:



Therefore we request to move UK-20398 back to the Main Set.
Andrew WEST
UK
2023-01-24 12:24:28 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]

Agree with Andrew. This is not a wrong character. The above picture is cited from one modern internal system in ROK. This form is also used as J+BA38 (J+=juki, 住基ネット統一文字コード) in Japan. We can say this form is needed in China (TCA included), Japan and ROK.

However, Japan has unified J+BA38 to U+2ADC2 𪷂 in Moji_Joho project as MJ057522.
U+2ADC2


https://moji.or.jp/mojikibansearch/info?MJ%E6%96%87%E5%AD%97%E5%9B%B3%E5%BD%A2%E5%90%8D=MJ057522

This most important issue is if it is right to unify J+BA38 or MJ057522 to U+2ADC2 𪷂.

BTW, current glyph for U+2ADC2 𪷂 is also included in modern internal system in ROK.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-03-14 16:46:49 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
U+2ADC2
Unify to 𪷂 (U+2ADC2).

The pronunciation of U+2ADC2 𪷂 is also mu4, so it is also a variant of 慕 without a doubt.

Suggest to update UCV #32a to Level 1 as well.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2023-03-21 02:36:24 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-21 (Tue)
10:36 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
unified to 𪷂 (U+2ADC2).
IRG #57
2021-09-17 (Fri)
10:44 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Postponed for further investigation

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 02073, change Status to Postponed
2.0
For 02073, add Discussion Record "Postponed for further investigation, IRG 57."
5.0
For 02073, change Status to Unified
5.0
For 02073, add Discussion Record "Unified to 𪷂 U+2ADC2, IRG 60."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UK-20398
1.0

Raw Info
groupUK
a) Source referenceUK-20398
b) PUA Code of TTFF4E7
c) KangXi Radical Code (Primary)85.0
d) Stroke Count (Primary)11
e) First Stroke (Primary)2
f) Secondary KX Radical CodeN/A
f) a. Secondary Stroke CountN/A
f) b. Secondary First StrokeN/A
g) Total Stroke Count16
i) IDS⿱莫氺
j) Similar/ Variants U+6155
k1) References to evidence documents《天聞閣琴譜》(清光緒二年)卷7
k2) Images FilenamesUK-20398-001.jpg
l) Other InformationN/A
m1) Previous IRG WSN/A
m2) Sequence No.N/A