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94.0 犬
SC=11, FS=1 TS=15

GKJ-00628
IRGN2678WS2021v7.0Unified&Withdrawn
Not unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, kept in D-set due to frozen M-set, may be submitted to WS2024, IRG 62.
Unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, add a new UCV rule ⿱𣪊X and ⿱殸X and ⿹ 𣪊X, level 2, IRG 59.
Not unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, evidence accepted, IRG 58.
U+2483CU+2483C
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
U+2483C
misprint of 𤠼?
Eddie LI
Individual
2021-10-30 00:28:37 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
It's not better to unify to 𤠼 (U+2483C), because the components are too different.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-12-03 04:57:31 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]

▲ 《説文解字》(陳昌治本)


▲ 《説文解字》(平津館叢書本)

However, in THX and other version, the glyph is different, which looks like ⿱㱿犬.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-03-11 03:31:23 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]

▲ 《説文解字》(藤花榭本)

In DYC version, ⿱㱿犬 and ⿱殸犬 are both used in the text, and Duan Yucai said they are variants, but ⿱㱿犬 is the regular form.


▲ 《説文解字注》

⿱殸犬 is a necessary variant in 説文 research, and ⿱㱿犬 could be unified to U+3E89 㺉.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-03-11 05:20:51 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
⿱𣪊X miswritten as ⿱殸X is quite common in historical documents, while 𣪊 and 殸 have different etymologies. I suggest adding a new Level 2 UCV ⿱𣪊X & ⿱殸X, where ⿱𣪊X also unifiable with ⿹
𣪊X.

If the UCV is added, this character should be unified to 㺉 (U+3E89).
Henry CHAN
Individual
2022-06-04 10:51:57 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The unification comments from Henry (#6293) and Eddie (#3077) are different, and this character is related to the definition of the small seal character, I suggest TCA and China NB, the authors of WG2 N5191, could choose which one is better, that will be useful for the future digital dictionary works.

If the new UCV is rejected, the character should be kept as my suggestion.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-07-07 08:36:27 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
《説文解字繫傳》祁寯藻本 looks like this.
Toshiya SUZUKI
Japan
2024-03-19 01:26:36 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
《説文解字五音韻譜》明・陳大科本 looks like this.

《説文解字五音韻譜》明・白口本 (the ancestor of 汲古閣本) looks like this.

《説文解字五音韻譜》明・天啓年間本 looks like this.
Toshiya SUZUKI
Japan
2024-03-19 01:35:40 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
《説文解字》南宋刊元修 海源閣舊藏本 is hard to identify.
Toshiya SUZUKI
Japan
2024-03-19 01:45:27 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
Considering that "㺉" is one of the heading characters in 説文解字 but the glyph GKJ-00628 is not, dealing GKJ-00628 as malformed character (and unify it with the correctly shaped character) and unify with the correctly shaped glyph would be reasonable attitude for the users of 大徐本説文解字.
But even if the character was really mistakenly generated, if it has been separately used for a long time, the separate encoding might be a considerable option.
Tao Yang, please could you supply more detailed bibliographic information of the evidence 1? Is it taken from 《通雅》? 《漢書補注》? I don't have nice text database to spot where the part was taken from.
Toshiya SUZUKI
Japan
2024-03-19 03:41:10 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]

汉书补注 P4130



Details on this page.
TAO Yang
China
2024-03-19 07:38:24 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]

說文解字 清嘉慶九年(1804)陽湖孫星衍平津館校刻宋小字本

說文解字注箋 民國三年(1914)京師補刻清光緒二十年(甲午1894)番禹徐氏桂林刻本

正字通 清康熙九年(1670)序弘文書院木刻本

正字通 清康熙間芥子園刻本

通雅 清康熙五年(1666)姚文燮浮山此藏軒刻本

御定佩文韻府 清乾隆間寫摛藻堂四庫全書薈要本

黔游记

古經解彙函二十三種·说文解字 清同治十二年(1873)粵東書局刻本

粵雅堂叢書·續黔書 清道光光緒間(1821-1908)南海伍氏刻本

養素堂文集 清道光十五年(1835)束華書屋刻本

平津館叢書·說文解字 清光緒十一年(1885)吳縣朱氏槐廬家塾刻本
中国养生文献全书·第三卷·调疾饮食辨
TAO Yang
China
2024-03-19 08:28:30 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
According to the additional evidences, this character should be viewed as a stable variant shape of 𤠼. There is no doubt for it to be encoded.
Although character analysis is required in coding work, overall, our task is not to provide textual research for linguists and only code for correct character shapes, but to provide code points for social character usage needs. If some glyphs have independent usage cases in the text or have value in distinguishing glyphs, they should be able to be encoded. Discussing these types of characters without reaching a consensus would waste a lot of meeting time in the past and future.
TAO Yang
China
2024-03-19 08:53:36 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
Let me reiterate my point of view in Comment #3897 to support encoding this character separately, and the UCV should be changed correspondingly.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2024-03-19 09:01:45 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-20 (Wed)
9:44 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
back to m set.
IRG #62
2024-03-21 (Thu)
11:47 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
could be sumitted to WS2024.
IRG #59
2022-10-18 (Tue)
9:15 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Unified to U+243AC, Add new UCV by Henry CHAN in comment #6293
IRG #58
2022-03-15 (Tue)
9:10 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, Evidence accepted

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
3.0
For 02417, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, evidence accepted, IRG 58."
4.0
For 02417, change Status to Unified
4.0
For 02417, add Discussion Record "Unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, add a new UCV rule ⿱𣪊X and ⿱殸X and ⿹ 𣪊X, level 2, IRG 59."
7.0
For 02417, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𤠼 U+2483C, kept in D-set due to frozen M-set, may be submitted to WS2024, IRG 62."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GKJ-00628
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GKJ - Science and Technology Characters)
a) Source referenceGKJ-00628
b) PUA Code of TTFE19F
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)94.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)11
e) First Stroke(Primary)1
g) Total Stroke Count15
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿱殸犬
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc通雅 汉书补注 說文解字