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4.0 丿
SC=6, FS=1 TS=7

VN-F000F
No change. Possible unification if serves as components, IRG 58.
IDS=⿰⿹丅⿰丨丨⿱厶亅, 2021-10.
Not unified to 所 U+6240, 㪽 U+3ABD, 𠩄 U+20A44, 𫝂 U+2B742, 𫠦 U+2B826, or 𬻐 U+2CED0, IRG 57.
Similar To: 所 (U+6240)
U+6240U+6240
U+3ABDU+3ABD
U+20A44U+20A44
U+2B742U+2B742
U+2B826U+2B826
U+2CED0U+2CED0
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+2B826
unify to 𫠦
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2021-05-19 03:03:47 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+6240
U+3ABD
U+20A44
U+2B742
U+2B826
U+2CED0
Existing coded variant forms of 所 include 㪽 (U+3ABD), 𠩄 (U+20A44), 𫝂 (U+2B742), 𫠦 (U+2B826), 𬻐 (U+2CED0).
Henry CHAN
Individual
2021-05-19 16:27:02 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
IRG should confirm if it's suitable to use Suzhou numerals in IDS. See IRGN2413, https://appsrv.cse.cuhk.edu.hk/~irg/irg/irg53/IRGN2413_IDS_issues.pdf.

If yes, the current IDS should be changed to ⿰⿹丅〢⿱厶亅; if not, the IDS should be changed to ⿰⿹丅⿰丨丨⿱厶亅.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2021-05-22 03:57:21 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
While the semantic relationship is clear, structurally, the overall effect is different from the other variants and we see no need to unify.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2021-05-23 18:31:12 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
U+6240
U+3ABD
U+20A44
U+2B742
U+2B826
U+2CED0
As Henry mentioned, there are 5 existing coded variant forms of 所 include 㪽 (U+3ABD), 𠩄 (U+20A44), 𫝂 (U+2B742), 𫠦 (U+2B826), 𬻐 (U+2CED0).
1. The quality of this character is questionable.
2. A similar glyph has already been encoded in 𫠦 (U+2B826).
3. There would be no end for this issue, for the discovery of variants would be a endless trip.
TAO Yang
China
2022-01-04 10:08:18 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Most of the CJK characters in Unicode are variants of another character as a large number of the characters proposed in WS2021. So, this is not an argument for unification. Neither is there new information added since the previous IRG #57 decision to not unify.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2022-01-04 20:16:27 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
There is still only one piece of evidence with no actual usage to prove the variant has been used in practice. A single and indirect evidence in the dictionary cannot prove that the character's form is reasonable.
TAO Yang
China
2024-02-06 04:48:41 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
Truyện Kiều 1870

Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2024-02-09 18:54:02 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v6.0
[ Unresolved ]
The actual forms in texts (above and below) do resemble U+2B826. We can consider withdrawing this

Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2024-02-09 19:26:53 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #58
2022-03-16 (Wed)
11:38 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
no change. possible unification if serves as components.
IRG #57
2021-09-16 (Thu)
9:52 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 𫠦 U+2B826, Not unified to 所 U+6240, Not unified to 㪽 U+3ABD, Not unified to 𠩄 U+20A44, Not unified to 𫝂 U+2B742, Not unified to 𬻐 U+2CED0
IRG #57
2021-09-16 (Thu)
9:52 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
not unified to those per character proper.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 00033, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 所 U+6240, 㪽 U+3ABD, 𠩄 U+20A44, 𫝂 U+2B742, 𫠦 U+2B826, or 𬻐 U+2CED0, IRG 57."
2.0
For 00033, change IDS to ⿰⿹丅⿰丨丨⿱厶亅
2.0
For 00033, add Discussion Record "IDS=⿰⿹丅⿰丨丨⿱厶亅, 2021-10."
3.0
For 00033, add Discussion Record "No change. Possible unification if serves as components, IRG 58."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
VN-F000F
1.0

Raw Info
groupV
SourceVN-F000F
CodeF000F
Rad4
Strk6
FS1
TS7
IDS⿰⿹丅〢⿱厶丨
Var.
EvidenceVN-F000F.jpg
Readingsở thửa
NoteN/A
Prev. WSN/A
Prev. WS No.N/A