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94.0 犬
𬙬
SC=9, FS=4 TS=12

TD-7521
Evidence accepted, IRG 62.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-07-03 15:00:08 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
similar to U+247AC 𤞬
U+247AC
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-07-07 05:25:33 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 10:03:16 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
As #7860 points out, this is similar in shape to U+247AC 𤞬, which is also a personal name used in Taiwan. The given reading, "suàn" is no doubt derived from the right side of TD-7521, 𬙬, which is a variant of 算 (suàn). The reading for U+247AC 𤞬 could be "lòng" if it comes from the phonetic 弄, but we have no data. If so, they are likely different characters. It would be good to have more evidence for both characters to determine a possible relationship.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-02-09 20:45:59 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
Printed in 2007 by MOI including BMP:
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2023-03-16 10:01:07 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #62
2024-03-21 (Thu)
9:40 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
additional evidence accepted.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
7.0
For 02398, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, IRG 62."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TD-7521
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTD-7521
b) PUA Code of TTFE190
c) KangXi Radical Code94.0
e) Stroke Count9
f) First Stroke4
g) Total stroke count12
i) IDS⿰犭𬙬
j) Similar/ VariantsNo
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_04
k1) Page No.Page7, no.1717
l) Optional infosuàn