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196.0 鳥
𠪨
SC=14, FS=1 TS=25

GKJ-00303
IRGN2632WS2021v6.0Pending
Kept postponed, IRG 61.
IDS=⿰𠪨鳥, 2021-10.
Postponed, may be non-cognate, additional evidence needed, IRG 57.
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_IDS
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
⿰𠪨鳥
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2021-07-08 03:37:19 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+2A1EE


Consider add UCV 𠪨/廛 to j1 due to difference of a single stroke (the first dot). So it can be unified to 𪇮.

Thanks Henry who mentioned 𪇮.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2021-07-08 13:08:57 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Will a new UCV be added to handle this unification?
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2023-07-10 21:03:53 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
For 𠪨~廛:
𧓋 (C12501) ~ 𧔊 (C12501-001)
𧸪 (C13655-002) ~ 𧸳 (C13655)
𨞬 ~ 鄽 (GHZR: 4054.04)
⿰金𠪨 (C15168-002) ~ 𨮻 (C15168)
⿰𧾷𠪨 (B04971-005) ~ 躔 (B04971)
⿵門𠪨 (C15366-001) ~ 𨷠 (TB-2215) 𨷭 (TB-2219)
⿺走𠪨 (C13847-002) ~ 𧾡 (C13847)
So it's okay to add UCV 𠪨~廛.
Kushim JIANG
Individual
2023-10-07 09:12:28 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
This character was moved to pending as there was no agreement at the time on whether or not to unify. There do not seem to be any UCS unification examples and, as noted above, there are at least 4 UCS disunification UCS examples. As it stands looks insufficient of a new UCV.
John Knightley
Individual
2023-10-09 15:45:06 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Reply to #14296,

Sorry. I may not explain the information I listed in detail.
I use the “~” symbol for what I identify as a Z-variant relation (广义异写) (that may be unifiable). The parentheses indicate the source of the variation relation, e.g., an intercharacter relation identified by GHZR, GZH, GKX, or an intercharacter relation identified by the Variant Dictionary (using the same glyph number).
In particular, encoding determinations made during the Extension B period shall not be regarded as disunification due to different abstract shapes. So all of the examples I listed seem to me to be examples of what could be used as unification.

P.S. I may use “>” for what I identify as a Y-variant relation (广义异构) (that may be disunifiable), use “≁” for non-cognate, [...] for abstract shape (or abstract IDS), |...| for actual shape (or actual IDS), {*... (...)} for phonetic symbol field.
Kushim JIANG
Individual
2023-10-10 12:52:10 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Reply to #14350,

thank you for the clarification of your notation, because of your liberal use of ~ elsewhere, I was under the impression that by ~ you simply meant to indicate variant.
John Knightley
Individual
2023-10-11 01:32:25 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Reply to #14242,

It is better to show the meaning of the number in the brackets. I guess they are the number used in current online version of 異體字字典 (maybe I am wrong). Not all the reviewers know. When you show information clearer, other reviewers will be easy to do the double checks.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2023-10-11 05:25:33 UTC
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Reply to #14362 and #14368,

Thank you! I will change to 𧓋 (DCCV: C12501), in which DCCV represents Dictionary of Chinese Character Variants (異體字字典).
I'm still thinking about how to design a proper notation system that simplifies the presentation and clarifies the concepts in ORT reviewing, so the notation system is still unstable, sorry.
Kushim JIANG
Individual
2023-10-11 05:40:38 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v5.0
[ Resolved ]
Add a new UCV is OK
TAO Yang
China
2023-10-14 15:44:01 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #61
2023-10-16 (Mon)
12:12 pm -0400
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Keep postponed.
IRG #57
2021-09-14 (Tue)
9:14 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
postponed, may be non-cognate, additional evidence needed.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 04782, change Status to Postponed
2.0
For 04782, add Discussion Record "Postponed, may be non-cognate, additional evidence needed, IRG 57."
2.0
For 04782, change IDS to ⿰𠪨鳥
2.0
For 04782, add Discussion Record "IDS=⿰𠪨鳥, 2021-10."
6.0
For 04782, add Discussion Record "Kept postponed, IRG 61."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GKJ-00303
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GKJ - Science and Technology Characters)
a) Source referenceGKJ-00303
b) PUA Code of TTFE05A
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)196.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)14
e) First Stroke(Primary)1
g) Total Stroke Count25
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿰⿸厂⿱里𡉀鳥
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc說文解字