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30.0 口
SC=13, FS=2, TS=16

GZ-2352301
Not unified to 𠽏 U+20F4F, V horizontal extension noted, IRG 65.
Postponed for unification to 𠽏 U+20F4F, IRG 64.
Not unified to 𠽏 U+20F4F, IRG 63.
U+20F4FU+20F4F
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+20F4F
Unify to 𠽏 (U+20F4F)?

If yes, we could expand UCV #90.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2024-09-09 14:06:02 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
There are 8 URO disunification examples which suggests not expanding UCV #90
U+57F3 埳 ⿰土臽 vs U+586A 塪 ⿰土舀
U+60C2 惂 ⿰忄臽 vs U+6146 慆 ⿰忄舀
U+6390 掐 ⿰扌臽 vs U+642F 搯 ⿰扌舀
U+6DCA 淊 ⿰氵臽 vs U+6ED4 滔 ⿰氵舀
U+7130 焰 ⿰火臽 vs U+7196 熖 ⿰火舀
U+8AC2 諂 ⿰言臽 vs U+8B1F 謟 ⿰言舀
U+8F21 輡 ⿰車臽 vs U+8F41 轁 ⿰車舀
U+9921 餡 ⿰飠臽 vs U+9940 饀 ⿰飠舀
John Knightley
Individual
2024-10-21 02:48:38 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
That this should not be unified has already been agreed at IRG #63 but still shows up because comment #2708 has not been marked as resolved. (FYI this comment will also be resolved)
John Knightley
Individual
2025-03-14 21:37:09 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
U+20F4F
Unify to 𠽏 U+20F4F.

The provided evidence shows that the phonetic is 陷 (臽) without a doubt. The writing of 𠂊 as 爫 is fairly common and a number of other UCVs exist (e.g. 争 / 爭). Suggest to add a new UCV level 2 臽 and 舀.

The examples given in the URO are not all variants. For example, 諂 and 謟 are non-cognate.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2025-03-16 18:45:07 UTC
Attributes
ATTRIBUTES_FS
WS2024 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
5
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2025-07-11 17:58:25 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2024 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
ĐTĐCN, p. 0565, reading "hẹm"



Ngũ Thiên Tự (五千字), p. 34, reading "dèm"

Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2025-08-01 02:57:51 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It's difficult to clarify the semantics of GZ-2352301 and U+20F4F. Given that most instances of the pairs are already encoded separately, it seems better not to unify.
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2025-08-01 03:00:48 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Agree with #11558 there are good reasons not to unify.
John Knightley
China
2025-10-10 00:03:54 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2024 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
Since Annex S records source separation examplesn no unification and not suitable for a new UCV.
John Knightley
China
2025-10-10 00:07:17 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2024 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
U+20F4F
In favour of unifiation to 𠽏 U+20F4F.

It is extremely clear that the right hand side phonetic should be 陷. This is a completely different phonetic from 舀. I don't agree that the semantics are hard to clarify for GZ-2352301.

Historically it is common for 𠂊 and 爫 to be swapped.

I don't understand why "Annex S records source separation examples" would imply not suitable for a new UCV. All examples in the Source Code Separation mean they were deemed unifiable, but not unified, because they are encoded separately in the original source tables.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2025-10-13 17:52:57 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #65
2025-10-14 (Tue)
9:23 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
back m set, Vietnam will make H extention for this character.
IRG #64
2025-03-18 (Tue)
10:53 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 𠽏 U+20F4F
IRG #64
2025-03-18 (Tue)
10:56 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
further investation needed.
IRG #63
2024-10-22 (Tue)
9:53 am +0900
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Not unified to 𠽏 U+20F4F

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 00619, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𠽏 U+20F4F, IRG 63."
3.0
For 00619, change Status to Postponed
3.0
For 00619, add Discussion Record "Postponed for unification to 𠽏 U+20F4F, IRG 64."
4.0
For 00619, change Status to OK
4.0
For 00619, add Discussion Record "Not unified to 𠽏 U+20F4F, V horizontal extension noted, IRG 65."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GZ-2352301
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceGZ-2352301
CodepointE354
Radical30.0
Stroke Count13
First Stroke2
Total Stroke16
IDS⿰口䧟
VariantsN/A
Pronunciationhaemq
Normalization Ref.N/A
Total No. of Evidences1
NotesOriginal PUA codepoint: F4F7A.