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01996
85.0 水
𠤭
SC=4, FS=1 TS=7

TC-2C5B
IRGN2581WS2021v4.0Pending
Postponed for evidence, IRG 59.
Similar To: 沤 (U+6CA4)
U+6CA4U+6CA4
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
similar to WS2021-01995:TC-2C5A
01995
水 85.4.1
TC-2C5A
TS 7 · IDS


Both of two characters are used in Tainan City according to the evidence.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-06-29 15:55:03 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
For all TCA-submitted ideographs that include only this type of evidence, which is effectively an excerpt from the CNS 11643 standard, such evidence alone is insufficient. Their presence in the CNS 11643 standard can certainly serve as supplementary evidence, but it should not be the sole evidence. Other member bodies submit evidence that either shows the ideographs in actual use or in a published dictionary.
Ken LUNDE
UTC
2022-07-01 16:31:56 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
It is normal for name characters to be included in CNS 11643, but TCA does not submit CNS 11643 as the sole evidence.

All ideographic evidence submitted by TCA is NOT TAKEN from the CNS 11643 standard, but is specially produced from the database of the Household Service Department. It is a proof of actual need/use. It is an official document with an official seal.


What Ken's understanding of TCA evidence is incorrect. Or are you talking about "actual use" in some other meaning that TCA does not understand?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-17 09:32:24 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
U+6CDF
Unify to 泟 U+6CDF with new UCV

Add new UCV
𠤭.

From the MOE Dictionary:
Henry CHAN
Individual
2022-10-19 02:53:57 UTC
Unification
UCV
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
Although 𠤭 is a variant of 正, but the shape of these two characters is too different. If to be a new UCV rule, whether there is over-unified?
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2022-10-19 06:16:31 UTC
Other
OTHER
WS2021 v3.0
[ Unresolved ]
https://hc.jsecs.org/irg/ws2017/app/index.php?find=UK-10375 , which has 区 at the position of 𠤭 in U+25BB9 𥮹. I was questionable whether they can be dealt as the disunification example. According to Henry's comment during IRG59, from their pronunciations, they are regarded as non-cognate, should not be dealt as disunification example.
Toshiya SUZUKI
Japan
2022-10-20 01:51:06 UTC
Other
OTHER
WS2021 v4.0
[ New ]
kMandarin zhēng
Lee COLLINS
Vietnam
2023-02-02 20:05:35 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #59
2022-10-20 (Thu)
9:26 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
pending.

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
4.0
For 01996, change Status to Postponed
4.0
For 01996, add Discussion Record "Postponed for evidence, IRG 59."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
TC-2C5B
1.0

Raw Info
groupTCA
a) Source referenceTC-2C5B
b) PUA Code of TTFE13B
c) KangXi Radical Code85.0
e) Stroke Count4
f) First Stroke1
g) Total stroke count7
i) IDS⿰氵𠤭
j) Similar/ VariantsU+6CA4
k) Ref. to Evidence docIRGN2486_TCA_WS2021_evi_03
k1) Page No.Page13, no.1289
l) Optional infozhēng