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196.0 鳥
SC=9, FS=5 TS=20

GKJ-00309
IRGN2632WS2021v6.0Unified&Withdrawn
Withdrawn, IRG 60.
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Other
COMMENT
WS2021 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
U+9A2D


Both evidences are misprint of 騭.

The first evidence 馬牡曰~ indicates ⿱陟鳥 is a name of horse. The text is from 《爾雅·釋畜》which gives 騭. https://ctext.org/library.pl?if=en&file=80276&page=105

The second evidence mentions 桑原 隲蔵(くわばら じつぞう). 隲 is semantic variant of 騭.
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2021-07-08 03:50:21 UTC
Data for Unihan
SIMP_VARIANT
WS2021 v1.0
HUANG Junliang
Individual
2021-08-31 19:46:35 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v3.0
[ Resolved ]
The character is not included in the first evidence. The scholar mentioned the second evidence was a famous historian in Japan. The followings are his books.


The name was written as 桑原𨽥藏 by 岩波書店 in 1935.
https://book.kongfz.com/535541/4390005805/


The name was written as 桑原隲藏 by 商務印書館.
https://book.kongfz.com/565592/4500160884/


The name was also written as 桑原隲藏 by 岩波書店 in 1968.
https://book.kongfz.com/271942/4788602597/


The name was also written as 桑原𨽥藏 by 臺灣商務印書館 in 1971.
https://book.kongfz.com/446938/4381053120/


The name was written as 桑原骘藏 by 中華書局 in 2007.
https://book.kongfz.com/517/4421072712/


The name was also written as 桑原隲藏 by 中華書局 in 2009.
https://book.kongfz.com/351791/4657623042/


The name was written as 桑原骘藏 by 科学出版社 in 2019.
https://book.kongfz.com/268892/3685037725/

All the books are not related to the submitted character, so it is not better to encode it.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-06-16 05:18:04 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
Suggest to withdraw this character along with 04814, as the evidence for 04739 suggests that it is a misprint.

Otherwise, if the evidence for the simplified character is accepted, keep both.

04739
鳥 196.9.5
GKJ-00309
TS 20 · IDS

04814
鸟 196′.10.5
GKJ-00393
TS 15 · IDS
SC=10, TS=15, IRG 58.
Henry CHAN
Individual
2023-01-18 03:10:37 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
We checked books by 桑原隲藏 dated before the publishing of 桑原隲蔵全集 (1968) in the University of Tokyo library. As far as we have found, his personal preference is apparently 隲, as well as the most of its typed representation. In the scope of his Japanese works, 𨽥 appears in limited instances as calligraphic stylized title on the cover or the title page, but we are unable to find it in the text body.





Among those books, 支那の孝道 and 東西交通史論叢 contain photocopy of his manuscript, clearly showing the 隲 variant in his handwriting.




On the contrary, Chinese translations appears to more eagerly employ 𨽥.

《張騫西征考》 consistently uses it:


and 《唐宋貿易港研究》 uses it partially in the colophon and a couple of chapter headings, while 隲 in elsewhere:




Aside from that, the government gazette records his name around 30 times, but except for his obituary, which also uses variant of 桑, no evidence that other variants than 隲 were used during his lifetime.
https://dl.ndl.go.jp/pid/2957791/1/5


We did not find any evidence 桑原隲藏 has been written with the 鳥 component.
WANG Yifan
SAT
2023-01-18 06:05:44 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
The fifth image of #9693 is wrong. Please see the following instead:
WANG Yifan
SAT
2023-01-18 06:08:54 UTC
Evidence
EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Resolved ]
The former evidences show the wrong glyph of 騭 and 隲, withdraw would be better.
TAO Yang
China
2023-03-21 17:34:49 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #60
2023-03-23 (Thu)
9:19 am +0800
Recorded by Henry CHAN
Withdrawn (automatically processed by ORT manager)

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
5.0
For 04739, change Status to Withdrawn
5.0
For 04739, add Discussion Record "Withdrawn, IRG 60."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GKJ-00309
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GKJ - Science and Technology Characters)
a) Source referenceGKJ-00309
b) PUA Code of TTFE060
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)196.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)9
e) First Stroke(Primary)5
g) Total Stroke Count20
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿱陟鳥
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc伊斯兰教在中国 說略