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53.0 广
广
SC=5, FS=3, TS=8

UTC-03391
Evidence accepted, IRG 63.
Similar To: 鷹 (U+9DF9)
U+9DF9U+9DF9
Attributes:



Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
Panel "regional kanji", Kanken Japan Kanji Museum, photographed by me, ca. 2019

WANG Yifan
SAT
2024-08-25 13:39:20 UTC
Other
OTHER
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
As this is a Han-Katakana hybrid (⿸广⿱タカ taka = U+9DF9 鷹), would it be more appropriate to include it in the proposed "Script-Hybrid CJK Ideographs" block?

Personally, I am OK with encoding script-hybrid CJK ideographs as ordinary CJK unified ideographs, so I am not opposed to encoding UTC-03391, but I am concerned that it is inconsistent with the proposed treatment of similar hybrid characters in L2/24-201.
Andrew WEST
UK
2024-08-25 18:58:27 UTC
Other
OTHER
WS2024 v1.0
[ Resolved ]
The case of WS2024-01351 is similar, with 广 (Han) + 龴 (Katakana). Therefore, it should also be included in the discussion.
Conifer TSENG
TCA
2024-09-19 03:00:46 UTC
Data for Unihan
UNIHAN_DATA
WS2024 v2.0
kStrange K:U+30AB:U+30BF
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2025-01-19 16:49:50 UTC
Other
OTHER
WS2024 v2.0
[ Unresolved ]
Postpone for further discussion, the issue about how to treat the hybrid characters has not reached a conclusion.
TAO Yang
China
2025-02-19 07:04:52 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2024 v2.0
[ Unresolved ]
I completely understand not accepting script-hybrid Han ideographs that include Latin or Hiragana components at this time, but there are already CJK Unified Ideographs that include Katakana components, and even one whose components are all Katakana. In such cases, and as in the proposed ideograph, the Katakana components are manifested as Han components. Katakana are derived from Han components.

Script-hybrid Katakana + Han:

U+2B9A4: Reading = カイチ (ka + ichi); Components = カ (K) + 一 (Han); See MJ057059

U+2B9A4


U+2B9AB: Reading = カタナ (ka + ta + na); Components = カ (K) + 田 (Han) + ナ (K); See MJ057066

U+2B9AB


All Katakana:

U+2BCCD: Reading = ウツホ (u + tsu + ho); Components = ウ (K) + ツ (K) + ホ (K); See MJ057333

U+2BCCD


As an aside, the following ideograph in Extension F is a Hiragana ligature:

U+2CF00: Reading = して (shi + te); Components = し (H) + て (H); See MJ056854

U+2CF00
Ken LUNDE
Convenor
2025-03-18 14:15:37 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #63
2024-10-23 (Wed)
11:42 am +0900
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Evidence accepted

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
2.0
For 01356, add Discussion Record "Evidence accepted, IRG 63."

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
UTC-03391
1.0

Raw Info
Character ReferenceUTC-03391
CodepointF53E
Radical53
Stroke Count5
First Stroke3
Total Stroke8
IDS⿸广⿱夕力
VariantsU+9DF9
PronunciationN/A
Total No. of Evidences2
NotesN/A