Exact Match: 滋 (U+FA99)
Date | Description |
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IRG #64 2025-03-18 (Tue) 10:14 am +0800 Recorded by CHEN Zhuang | back to m set. |
IRG #63 2024-10-22 (Tue) 4:56 pm +0900 Recorded by CHEN Zhuang | Not unified to 滋 U+6ECB, utc is suggested submitting disunification proposal. |
IRG #63 2024-10-24 (Thu) 2:10 pm +0900 Recorded by CHEN Zhuang | withdrawn, utc is suggested submitting disunification proposal. |
Version | Description |
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2.0 | For 02127, change Status to Withdrawn |
2.0 | For 02127, add Discussion Record "Withdrawn, IRG 63." |
3.0 | For 02127, change Status to OK |
3.0 | For 02127, add Discussion Record "Back to M-set, IRG 64." |
Source Reference | Glyph |
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UTC-00777 |
Character Reference | UTC-00777 |
Codepoint | EB08 |
Radical | 85 |
Stroke Count | 10 |
First Stroke | 4 |
Total Stroke | 13 |
IDS | ⿰氵玆 |
Variants | U+6ECB, U+FA99 |
Pronunciation | N/A |
Total No. of Evidences | 1 |
Notes | Disunification of U+FA99 (KP1-52B4) |
Review Comments
This is already the U-source form of U+6ECB 滋, so UTC should submit a disunification proposal if they believe that ⿰氵玆 was incorrectly unified to 滋 (U+6ECB) (personally, I think the unification is correct).
Shuowen: “[玆] 黑也. 从二玄. 春秋傳曰: 何故使吾水玆?”
Shuowen: “[茲] 艸木多益. 从艸, 絲省聲.”
Guangyun: “[玆] (胡涓切, 匣先合四平) 說文曰: 黒也. 春秋傳曰: 何故使君 [吾] 水玆. 本亦音滋. 按: 本經只作滋.”
Guangyun: “[兹] (子之切, 精之開三平) 此也. 又姓. 左傳: 魯大夫兹無還.”
[茲] = ⿱ [艹(艸)] [𢆶(絲)], with phonetic symbol 絲 *TSƏ.
[玆] = ⿰ [玄] [玄], with phonetic symbol 玄 *WIN.
|⿰氵玆| in the evidence is [玆] with extra [氵], thus is not unified to [滋] = ⿰ [氵] [茲].
Note that disunifications have been processed via previous IRG working sets, which is why the UTC decided to submit this ideograph. UTC-01159, UTC-01162, and UTC-02972 in IRG Working Set 2017 served as precedents.
玆 and 茲 have often been used interchangeably in later periods. The following four pieces of evidence are provided for reference. Based on this, it is suggested to keep the unification with 滋 and ⿰氵玆.
(1)李守奎,〈古音研究中應當注意的幾個文字問題〉,《饒宗頤國學院院刊》第六期,2019年8月,p.178-181.
(2) 《漢語大字典》亠部「玆」, P316-317.
(3)《玉篇》(嘉慶19年重修本)卷之一 平聲.七之.津之切,”[⿰氵玆]……說文益也。…..”
(4) MOE Variant Dict. A02274-008