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116.0 穴
SC=7, FS=2 TS=12

GDM-00313
IRGN2606WS2021v5.0Pending
Pending for more evidence, IRG 58.
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Review Comments

Type
Description
Submitter
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
U+7A93
U+25997
Single example of an idiosyncratic way of writing 窓, not sufficient evidence for encoding. Unify with 𥦗 by UCV #22.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-01-05 21:07:56 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
The radical of 𥦗 is 穴 while the radical of ⿱宀总 is 宀, which means the change is important enough.
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2022-01-08 12:59:32 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
《中华姓氏源流大辞典》(中华书局,2014年) p. 1360

Based on the new evidence, I still believe that unification with U+25997 𥦗 is appropriate.
Andrew WEST
UK
2022-01-11 02:44:49 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
U+25997
Agree on unification to 𥦗 (U+25997).
KWAN Ching Kit
Individual
2022-03-07 18:49:31 UTC
Unification
UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
U+25997
Support the unification to 𥦗 (U+25997).

It’s common to write 穴 (⿱宀八/⿱宀儿) as ⿱宀丷 in the hand writing.
Eiso CHAN
Individual
2022-03-11 01:25:10 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
Please provide some evidences to prove " it is common to write 穴 (⿱宀八/⿱宀儿) as ⿱宀丷 in the hand writing".
Xieyang WANG
Individual
2022-03-13 09:17:37 UTC
Unification
NO_UNIFICATION
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
I understand Andrew's opinion about this unification case. What I want to say here is, the unification rule could applicable to most cases, except for special circumstance. Changing 八/儿 to 丷 do also change the cognitive style about the whole character. People always look upon a thing with the simplest thinking. A most ordinary Chinese can only think that GDM-00313 is combined by 宀 and 总, unless he/she has a high degree of expertise. Rules should not go against common sense.
TAO Yang
China
2022-03-14 20:11:54 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v2.0
[ Resolved ]
綺樓重夢四十八回
文津阁四库全书·乐府指迷
愛日吟廬書畫錄
東坡集
TAO Yang
China
2022-03-16 13:01:14 UTC
Evidence
NEW_EVIDENCE
WS2021 v4.0
[ Unresolved ]
新訂中州全韻
TAO Yang
China
2023-03-19 01:00:14 UTC

Meeting Minutes

DateDescription
IRG #58
2022-03-15 (Tue)
8:46 am +0800
Recorded by CHEN Zhuang
Pending for more evidence

Attribute Changes

VersionDescription
3.0
For 02899, add Discussion Record "Pending for more evidence, IRG 58."
3.0
For 02899, change Status to Postponed

Glyph Changes

Source ReferenceGlyph
GDM-00313
1.0

Raw Info
groupChina (GDM - Place Name Characters)
a) Source referenceGDM-00313
b) PUA Code of TTFE2B7
c) KangXi Radical Code(Primary)116.0
d) Stroke Count(Primary)7
e) First Stroke(Primary)2
g) Total Stroke Count12
i) IDS (Ideographic Description Sequence)⿱宀总
j) Similar/ Variants N/A
k) Ref. to Evidence doc宋元以来俗字谱 张克.公社的(宀总)口[J].山花,1961(11):3-5. 八辅 東坡集 檮杌閑評 花嶼詞 樂府詩鈔 綺樓重夢四十八回 愛日吟廬書畫錄